[mei-neumes-ig] @s-shaped, MEI 0.21

[Kate Helsen]

Re: n|e|s|w etc. as a value of @tilt for the S-shape, is there another way
of indicating whether the shape is oriented vertically (like a normal
looking S) or horizontally? Then we could look at describing the shape, in
those two orientations. (We had toyed with mirror-S shape, for example.)

Sorry if this is rehashing things, but when you write, "...encode the music
notation, not describe the shapes on a page", in cases like Old Hispanic
and Hartker neumes, I'm not entirely clear on the difference. I'm pretty
sure that difference is crucial, though.

Thanks,
K

On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 at 04:58 Andrew Hankinson <
andrew.hankinson at mail.mcgill.ca> wrote:

> Attribute: @s-shaped {n|e|s|w) (north, east, south, west; the direction of
> the initial long stroke, i.e., the standard letter S is “w”, its mirror
> shape is “e”, the letter turned 90-degrees on its side is “s”, and its
> mirror shape is “n”)
>
> (As a matter of style, MEI adopts a camel-case method for naming its
> attributes, so this would be @sShaped)
>
> This is problematic. If a line is written such that is not aligned
> perpendicular to the page edges, or it curves, or the page edges are not
> 90°) then from what baseline should the directional reference be?
>
> It is imperative to remember that this will be used to encode the music
> notation, not describe the shapes on a page.
>
> I would strongly suggest this be dropped, and another method of encoding
> the same information be developed.
>
>
> > On 15 Oct 2017, at 00:26, Ichiro Fujinaga, Prof. <
> ichiro.fujinaga at mcgill.ca> wrote:
> >
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> > Dear all,
> >
> > Subsequent to the Cantus Ultimus meeting, we had several discussions in
> Halifax. This resulted in the MEI Neumes Module Draft, Version 0.21.
> >
> > The changes from Version 0.2 can be viewed here:
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/14EVIGmBPdEtw7vXOPK8Uas7MG6WK6mxy_gQGSMpZH9A/edit?usp=sharing
> >
> > I strongly suggest, for the ease of discussions online, that comments
> and questions on the Draft be restricted to one topic per email, e.g., one
> attribute at a time.
> >
> > Ichiro
> >
> > =========================================
> > MEI Neumes Module Draft, Version 0.21 (2017-10-14)
> >
> > A <neume> element consists of one or more <nc> element(s).
> > A <nc> (neume component) element is a single pitched event, although the
> exact pitch may not be known.
> >
> > Attributes for <neume>:
> > @significative letters
> > @hispanicTick (type1|type2) ((further specifications required)
> >
> > Attributes for <nc>:
> > @pname
> > @oct
> > @intm (interval melodic; relative to the previous <neume>)
> {u|d|s|n|sh|sl} (u = up, d = down, s = same, n = neutral/unknown, sh = same
> or higher (but not lower), sl = same or lower (but not higher))
> > @s-shaped {n|e|s|w) (north, east, south, west; the direction of the
> initial long stroke, i.e., the standard letter S is “w”, its mirror shape
> is “e”, the letter turned 90-degrees on its side is “s”, and its mirror
> shape is “n”)
> > @significative letters
> > @curved {a|c} (anticlockwise, clockwise)
> > @angled
> > @liquescence
> > @episema
> > @len (s|l} (short, long)
> > @tilt {n|ne|e|se|s|sw|w|ne} (north, northeast, etc.)
> > @quilisma {2|3|4} (2, 3, or 4 curves)
> > @con {g|l|e}  (gapped, looped, extended) (connection to the previous
> <nc> within the same <neume>)
> >
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