[MEI-L] Question about mRest, dur and dots in MEI 3 and 4

Richard Freedman rfreedma at haverford.edu
Mon Jun 6 20:22:47 CEST 2022


Friends,

Final outcome of my little quest.  I went back and edited our original
Sibelius files again, now with three whole notes in place of a breve rests
for 3/1 bars.  These electronic editions are just for the MEI in any case
(in the PDF graphical editions we still use the breve rests).  But for use
with our CRIM Intervals (music21) analysis system, all is well.

The 3/1 measure tag with rests looks like this:

[image: screenshot_100.png]

Thanks to all who responded!

richard


On Sun, Jun 5, 2022 at 4:06 PM Klaus Rettinghaus <
klaus.rettinghaus at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Richard,
>
> the main problem is that the dots attribute has been removed in MEI 4.
> See
> https://music-encoding.org/guidelines/v4/elements/mrest.html#attributes
> and
> https://github.com/music-encoding/music-encoding/issues/429
>
>> Dr. Klaus Rettinghaus
>
> Am 05.06.2022 um 19:56 schrieb Andrew Hankinson
> <andrew.hankinson at rism.digital>:
>
> I can't tell you exactly why it's happening, but I suspect there's
> something going wrong here:
>
>
> https://github.com/music-encoding/encoding-tools/blob/main/mei30To40/mei30To40.xsl#L367-L415
>
> Particularly lines 410-413.
>
>
>
> On 5 Jun 2022, at 19:25, Richard Freedman <rfreedma at haverford.edu> wrote:
>
> I am using MEI garage.  We have a script by Raff Viglianti that passes
> each of our MEI 3 files to garage, then
> saves them locally.
>
> richard
>
> On Sun, Jun 5, 2022 at 1:21 PM Andrew Hankinson <
> andrew.hankinson at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Richard,
>>
>> How are you converting the files? What script or service are you using?
>>
>> -Andrew
>>
>> On 5 Jun 2022, at 18:39, Richard Freedman <rfreedma at haverford.edu> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Friends,
>>
>> I am wondering whether someone can help me with confusion about the
>> encoding of mRests.
>>
>> Our MEI 3.0 files have certain bars with mRest under a time signature of
>> 3/1.
>>
>> The dur of these mRests is recorded as breve in MEI 3.0.  We need,
>> however, to add dots="1" to these for subsequent processing with music21.
>> This works.
>>
>> However, when I convert these files to MEI 4.0. I also see a dur of
>> "breve 1", and the dots="1" are gone.
>>
>> What is the meaning of "breve 1" here?  I cannot seem to find the
>> documentation of this attribute value.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Richard
>>
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Richard Freedman
Professor of Music
John C. Whitehead '43 Professor of Humanities
Chair, Department of Music
Haverford College
Haverford, PA 19041

610-389-0595


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