[MEI-L] Slurs/ties across repetitions and/or endings

Wed Feb 6 10:12:03 CET 2019

Hi David, Werner,

I didn't try it with endings, but with choice/app it is indeed  
possible to have 2 slurs.
For instance:
  slur_1/@startid="note_regular" @endid="note_lem"
  slur_2/@startid="note_regular" @endid="note_rdg"

Verovio renders only one of the slurs then.

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Von: Andrew Hankinson [andrew.hankinson at bodleian.ox.ac.uk ]
An: Music Encoding Initiative [mei-l at lists.uni-paderborn.de ]
Datum: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 07:43:13 +0000
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> You could also have two ties with the same startid and a different  
> endid. I'm not sure how Verovio would render it, but that would seem  
> to me to be the most 'semantic' markup.
>
> -Andrew
>
>> On 5 Feb 2019, at 17:31, Werner Goebl wrote:
>>
>> Hi Andrew,
>>
>> thanks for your message. Sure, but then you only have one start and  
>> one end id, but for my example 1, I need two start ids or for  
>> example 2 two end ids.
>>
>> To clarify my problem, please see the attached MEI file with two  
>> slur elements for each of the two problems (renders strangely).
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Werner
>>
>> On 05.02.19 17:16, Andrew Hankinson wrote:
>>> Hi Werner,
>>> I would use the @startid and @endid attributes on the (or ) elements:
>>>
>>> This would mean that you would need to assign xml:ids to the note elements:
>>>
>>>
>>> -Andrew
>>>> On 5 Feb 2019, at 17:10, Werner Goebl wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear list,
>>>>
>>>> How would you encode a slur or tie that spans across a repetition  
>>>> sign and an ending block or across two ending blocks?
>>>>
>>>> Please see attached an excerpt from Beethoven Op. 57, 2nd movement.
>>>>
>>>> 1) There is a tie in the bass (bars 1--2) across a repeat start.  
>>>> The same tie is drawn in bar 9 with a repetition bar line in the  
>>>> first ending (prima volta) that leads back to bar 2.
>>>>
>>>> You could encode the ties as note attributes with multiple  
>>>> tie="i" or tie="t".
>>>>
>>>> The first example in bar 1--2/9--2 would be like this:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2) Another version of this problem is the tie from bar 7--8 into  
>>>> ending 1 and into ending 2. (A second such example occurs in the  
>>>> 3rd staff group.)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In both approaches, Verovio only renders the tie in the first  
>>>> ending, but not in the second.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a better way to encode such overlapping slurs/ties, in a  
>>>> way that Verovio actually renders? Would a modified tie element  
>>>> help that allows for multiple endids in such cases? Or is there  
>>>> another correct way of encoding this?
>>>>
>>>> All the best,
>>>> Werner & David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Dr. Werner Goebl
>>>> Associate Professor
>>>> Department of Music Acoustics – Wiener Klangstil
>>>> University of Music and Performing Arts Vienna
>>>> Anton-von-Webern-Platz 1
>>>> 1030 Vienna, Austria
>>>> Tel. +43 1 71155 4311
>>>> Fax. +43 1 71155 4399
>>>> http://iwk.mdw.ac.at/goebl
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>> -- 
>> Dr. Werner Goebl
>> Associate Professor
>> Department of Music Acoustics – Wiener Klangstil
>> University of Music and Performing Arts Vienna
>> Anton-von-Webern-Platz 1
>> 1030 Vienna, Austria
>> Tel. +43 1 71155 4311
>> Fax. +43 1 71155 4399
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