[MEI-L] Encoding of lyrics under a rest

Anna Plaksin annplaksin at gmx.net
Tue Mar 6 15:34:03 CET 2018


Hi Agnes,

why do you think using <del> is tag abuse?
You added a screenshot of a source showing this exact case to us. So, if you want to encode this particular case, I don’t think it is tag abuse to use <del> because it describes the case exactly as it is. Indeed, using <del> without the notion of describing the deleted text below that rest would be tag abuse.
In another case this discussion could be made about the use of <sic>: Is it appropriate to use <sic> in a case, where something so severely erroneous needs to be encoded that it could not be valid without it?

I think, such decisions depend on the particular case. A transcription of a manuscript has other requirements than a critical or a performance edition.

It would be nice, if you could give a little more context of what you actually want to achieve in that particular case. That would help a lot.

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Anna

Von: Agnes Seipelt
Gesendet: Dienstag, 6. März 2018 14:12
An: Music Encoding Initiative
Betreff: [MEI-L] Encoding of lyrics under a rest

Dear MEI community,
I hope that someone can help me with an encoding probIem. In the manuscript there are lyrics under a rest (that is obviously a mistake because the text is also crossed out). You can see it in the screenshot. 

I use MEI-CMN (and also tried MEI-all), rests cannot contain lyrics or verse, the only solution would be to integrate lyrics in a del-element within a rest:
 
      <rest dur="4">
                   <del>
                        <lyrics>
                             <verse/>
                          </lyrics>
                     </del>                                     
               </rest>
 
In this case the lyrics are deleted so this would be a solution. But I think it is “tag-abuse” because the del-element is necessary to validate the document. 
Another idea is to encode the lyrics as control event within the measure:
…
      </staff>
                   <lyrics synch="xy">
                        <verse>
                             <syl/>
                         </verse>
                    </lyrics>
Unfortunately, there is no attribute like @tstamp or @startid to point to the element the lyrics are related to. There is only @synch that “points to elements that are synchronous with the current element”.  But I think this would also be “tag-abuse”.
Does somebody have an idea how to solve this problem?
Thanks in advance!
 Agnes 

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Agnes Seipelt M.A.
Wissenschaftliche Mitarbeiterin
Musikwissenschaftliches Seminar Detmold/Paderborn
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