[MEI-L] Encoding staff lines

Wed Aug 9 11:25:23 CEST 2017

Verovio does not support @compressable. (But it does support page-based MEI
data.)

On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 8:27 PM, Roland, Perry D. (pdr4h) <pdr4h at virginia.edu
> wrote:

>
> Sorry, I hit the send button too soon --
>
> The "blank" portions of the staff can filled with "space" using the
> <space> element, like so --
>
> <space dur="1" compressable="false" />
>
> <space> can have a duration, although I'm not sure what it ought to be in
> this case.
>
> The @compressable attribute is a potential signal to a processor to leave
> the empty space intact.  I'm not sure that Verovio supports this yet, but
> it's a good idea to use it.
>
> But, this is as far as I'm willing to go towards a "diplomatic
> transcription", as the methods of handling this kind of situation become
> processor dependent very quickly.  The best practice is to stick to
> encoding the semantics of the notation and refer to an image for spatial
> details.  Using the coordinates of the bounding boxes of the systems, one
> can demonstrate that they have the same horizontal dimensions.
>
> --
> p.
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mei-l [mailto:mei-l-bounces at lists.uni-paderborn.de] On Behalf Of
> Roland, Perry D.
> > (pdr4h)
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 2:09 PM
> > To: Music Encoding Initiative <mei-l at lists.uni-paderborn.de>
> > Subject: Re: [MEI-L] Encoding staff lines
> >
> >
> > Hi Daniel,
> >
> > Having seen your examples, I agree with Andrew -- the best way to record
> the location of
> > the system (without resorting to a page-based description like that used
> by Verovio) is to
> > use @facs on <sb>.
> >
> > --
> > p.
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: mei-l [mailto:mei-l-bounces at lists.uni-paderborn.de] On Behalf Of
> > > Andrew Hankinson
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 1:27 PM
> > > To: Music Encoding Initiative <mei-l at lists.uni-paderborn.de>
> > > Subject: Re: [MEI-L] Encoding staff lines
> > >
> > > I think <sb @facs="#somezoneid" /> is probably the best way to do
> > > this; It's slightly counter-intuitive since <sb /> is a milestone
> > > element, but nevertheless it allows you to encode the physical
> dimensions of a system
> > and attach a zone to it.
> > >
> > > -Andrew
> > >
> > > > On 8 Aug 2017, at 13:20, Daniel Alles <DanielAlles at stud.uni-frankfur
> t.de> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > you can find an example of my source attached to this email. As you
> > > > can see, the 2nd,
> > > 3rd and 7th systems are not fully filled with notes, the 8th line is
> > > empty. What I would like to encode is that the systems are
> nevertheless of the same
> > width like the 1st.
> > > >
> > > > I encode the positions of the notes etc. using <zone>, <facs> and
> > > <ulx>/<uly>/<lrx>/<lry>, and something similar I would like to have
> > > for the staff systems, too.
> > > >
> > > > Best, Daniel
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Zitat von Andrew Hankinson <andrew.hankinson at mail.mcgill.ca>:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi Daniel,
> > > >>
> > > >> How are you encoding the position of every note, rest, etc.?
> > > >>
> > > >> <sb /> allows @facs, which can reference a defined zone on a page.
> So:
> > > >>
> > > >> <zone xml:id="z1" ulx="nn" uly="nn" lrx="nn" lry="nn" />
> > > >>
> > > >> then
> > > >>
> > > >> <sb facs="#z1" />
> > > >>
> > > >> -Andrew
> > > >>> On 8 Aug 2017, at 11:28, Roland, Perry D. (pdr4h) <
> pdr4h at virginia.edu> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Hi Daniel,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> MEI doesn't currently encode the width of the staff lines, but it
> > > >>> does allow one to
> > > specify the color of individual staff lines.  For staff lines that are
> > > logically but not visually present, you can set the color to white
> > > (presuming the background of the page is also white).  I'm not sure
> > > what you mean by "half-filled" staff lines.  Can you provide an
> example?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --
> > > >>> p.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>>> From: mei-l [mailto:mei-l-bounces at lists.uni-paderborn.de] On
> > > >>>> Behalf Of Daniel Alles
> > > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 2:26 AM
> > > >>>> To: Music Encoding Initiative <mei-l at lists.uni-paderborn.de>
> > > >>>> Subject: [MEI-L] Encoding staff lines
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Dear all,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> during my encoding of a facsimile I recognized that I give the
> > > >>>> exact location of every note, rest, dot etc. on the page, but not
> > > >>>> those of the lines they are written on. Of course I use <sb/> and
> > > >>>> <pb/> to cover the line breaks, but the width of the staff lines
> > > >>>> is not encoded, because I can't find anything for that in the
> > > >>>> Guidelines. Is there any possibility to encode them? My source
> > > >>>> contains some half-
> > > filled or empty staff lines which I would like to encode too.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Best,
> > > >>>> Daniel
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
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