[MEI-L] MEI-based catalogue of Carl Nielsen's works now online

Thu Oct 2 13:44:54 CEST 2014

Hi Richard,

first of all: also my congratulations to the launch of the Lost Voices project! Great work.

We did some rendering experiments with VexFlow last year, but as far as I recall we ran into some problems along the way. I definitely would like to try it again now.
Some (just very brief) step-by-step description of your workflow from Sibelius onwards would be nice. Even if we may not be able to have incipits perfectly rendered dynamically yet, we may take some of the first steps already. Batch conversion from Sibelius to MEI could be a good thing, for instance.

Is it VexFlow you are referring to on GitHub? I must admit I often have difficulties finding the right things on GitHub (and Google Code as well...), so if it is not too much trouble, I would be very grateful if you could point out the tools you are referring to.

Best,
Axel

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Fra: mei-l [mailto:mei-l-bounces at lists.uni-paderborn.de] På vegne af Richard Freedman
Sendt: 2. oktober 2014 12:57
Til: Music Encoding Initiative
Emne: Re: [MEI-L] MEI-based catalogue of Carl Nielsen's works now online

I agree that this new project shows us how we can exploit the great capacity of the MEI header for controlling large copora.

Since it might be of interest to others in the community, I'll add a brief follow up on the incipits and Sibelius:  thanks to the efforts of various members of the Du Chemin Lost Voices team (Andrew Hankinson, Raffaele Viglianti, Zoltan Komives, and Micah Walter) we now have the tools and workflow that takes us from Sibelius to MEI and in turn to dynamic rendering of notation in any browser.  (The workflows also include methods by which editors can include variant readings without needing to edit the MEI files directly).

There are of course limitations to the rendering, but this might be of use.

The code for all of this is available on GitHub.  I can share detailed instructions for editors.

Richard Freedman

> On Oct 2, 2014, at 2:59 AM, Axel Teich Geertinger <atge at kb.dk> wrote:
>
> Dear Morgan
>
> Thank you! The incipit workflow is not very sophisticated, really. They are simply high resolution TIFF graphics exported from Sibelius, subsequently converted to low and medium resolution PNGs for online use. No MEI involved, unfortunately. The MEI files simply point to the graphics.
>
> Perhaps that is as far as we can get with the Nielsen catalogue, at least for now. We don't have the resources to build some MEI rendering software ourselves, so we have to wait until something is available elsewhere. The problem is also that the incipits are quite complex, especially the ones for the incidental and orchestral music; as far as I know, there are no MEI tools advanced enough to render them yet. Please correct me if I am wrong - I'd love to know about such tools!
>
> We could of course encode the incipits in the MEI header anyway (if we hadn't anything else to do...), but as long as the means for further processing are lacking I don't think we will want to put a lot of work in it. We have some other catalogues in preparation (J.P.E. Hartmann, J.A. Scheibe) and plans for even more (Niels W. Gade and others). Perhaps in some of these future catalogues we will be able to handle MEI incipits.
>
> We are keeping an eye on projects such as Verovio and a MEI-to-Lilypond workflow. By the way, we have another small project in preparation. The notation is very simple, though, so we have written a basic transformation to Lilypond (but very specific, so it's probably not useful for anything else). This allows us to produce both SVG and PDFs on the fly. I will make an announcement on the list when it is published.
>
> Best,
> Axel
>
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> Fra: mei-l [mailto:mei-l-bounces at lists.uni-paderborn.de] På vegne af 
> Morgan V. Cundiff
> Sendt: 1. oktober 2014 22:50
> Til: Music Encoding Initiative
> Emne: Re: [MEI-L] MEI-based catalogue of Carl Nielsen's works now 
> online
>
>
> Axel,
>
> Very impressive. Congratulations!
>
> Could you provide a very brief description of your workflow for creating incipits? I see the image files, but was MEI involved upstream?
>
> Thanks, and again, great work.
>
> Morgan Cundiff
>
>
>
>
>> On Wed, 1 Oct 2014, Axel Teich Geertinger wrote:
>>
>> Dear list
>>
>> I am delighted to announce that a thematic catalogue of Carl Nielsen's (1865-1931) works is now available online. Except for the incipits it is entirely based on the MEI header, not least the FRBR module. We have used our MerMEId editor to create and edit it.
>> All entries are available as XML as well. The catalogue also provides links to The Royal Library's scans of Nielsen's manuscripts and to all volumes of the recently finished complete edition of Nielsen's works (in PDF). A printed edition of the catalogue is scheduled for publication next year.
>>
>> We plan to expand the online catalogue - and MerMEId - further, for example by improving support for linked data to provide information on the persons mentioned.
>>
>> The Nielsen catalogue (CNW) is available at 
>> http://www.kb.dk/dcm/cnw.html The MerMEId project page is 
>> http://www.kb.dk/en/nb/dcm/projekter/mermeid.html
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>> Best,
>> Axel
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