[MEI-L] MEI-based catalogue of Carl Nielsen's works now online

Thu Oct 2 14:03:49 CEST 2014

The steps we use for Du Chemin, along with addresses of all GitHub
repositories, are in a PDF you can obtain with the following DropBox link:

Sibelius to MEI Documentation
<https://www.dropbox.com/s/l1vovc810y2vici/Sibelius_2_Mei_Example_9_5_2014.pdf?dl=0>

By December I will have a full narrative of our methods available as part
of our grant report (and will post the documentation links to the Du Chemin
Lost Voices site.  Meanwhile I hope the PDF will help.

(I hope others on the list don't mind having this email chain. If you
prefer, we can take the conversation off line . . .)

Richard

On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 7:44 AM, Axel Teich Geertinger <atge at kb.dk> wrote:

> Hi Richard,
>
> first of all: also my congratulations to the launch of the Lost Voices
> project! Great work.
>
> We did some rendering experiments with VexFlow last year, but as far as I
> recall we ran into some problems along the way. I definitely would like to
> try it again now.
> Some (just very brief) step-by-step description of your workflow from
> Sibelius onwards would be nice. Even if we may not be able to have incipits
> perfectly rendered dynamically yet, we may take some of the first steps
> already. Batch conversion from Sibelius to MEI could be a good thing, for
> instance.
>
> Is it VexFlow you are referring to on GitHub? I must admit I often have
> difficulties finding the right things on GitHub (and Google Code as
> well...), so if it is not too much trouble, I would be very grateful if you
> could point out the tools you are referring to.
>
> Best,
> Axel
>
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: mei-l [mailto:mei-l-bounces at lists.uni-paderborn.de] På vegne af
> Richard Freedman
> Sendt: 2. oktober 2014 12:57
> Til: Music Encoding Initiative
> Emne: Re: [MEI-L] MEI-based catalogue of Carl Nielsen's works now online
>
> I agree that this new project shows us how we can exploit the great
> capacity of the MEI header for controlling large copora.
>
> Since it might be of interest to others in the community, I'll add a brief
> follow up on the incipits and Sibelius:  thanks to the efforts of various
> members of the Du Chemin Lost Voices team (Andrew Hankinson, Raffaele
> Viglianti, Zoltan Komives, and Micah Walter) we now have the tools and
> workflow that takes us from Sibelius to MEI and in turn to dynamic
> rendering of notation in any browser.  (The workflows also include methods
> by which editors can include variant readings without needing to edit the
> MEI files directly).
>
> There are of course limitations to the rendering, but this might be of use.
>
> The code for all of this is available on GitHub.  I can share detailed
> instructions for editors.
>
> Richard Freedman
>
>
> > On Oct 2, 2014, at 2:59 AM, Axel Teich Geertinger <atge at kb.dk> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Morgan
> >
> > Thank you! The incipit workflow is not very sophisticated, really. They
> are simply high resolution TIFF graphics exported from Sibelius,
> subsequently converted to low and medium resolution PNGs for online use. No
> MEI involved, unfortunately. The MEI files simply point to the graphics.
> >
> > Perhaps that is as far as we can get with the Nielsen catalogue, at
> least for now. We don't have the resources to build some MEI rendering
> software ourselves, so we have to wait until something is available
> elsewhere. The problem is also that the incipits are quite complex,
> especially the ones for the incidental and orchestral music; as far as I
> know, there are no MEI tools advanced enough to render them yet. Please
> correct me if I am wrong - I'd love to know about such tools!
> >
> > We could of course encode the incipits in the MEI header anyway (if we
> hadn't anything else to do...), but as long as the means for further
> processing are lacking I don't think we will want to put a lot of work in
> it. We have some other catalogues in preparation (J.P.E. Hartmann, J.A.
> Scheibe) and plans for even more (Niels W. Gade and others). Perhaps in
> some of these future catalogues we will be able to handle MEI incipits.
> >
> > We are keeping an eye on projects such as Verovio and a MEI-to-Lilypond
> workflow. By the way, we have another small project in preparation. The
> notation is very simple, though, so we have written a basic transformation
> to Lilypond (but very specific, so it's probably not useful for anything
> else). This allows us to produce both SVG and PDFs on the fly. I will make
> an announcement on the list when it is published.
> >
> > Best,
> > Axel
> >
> > -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> > Fra: mei-l [mailto:mei-l-bounces at lists.uni-paderborn.de] På vegne af
> > Morgan V. Cundiff
> > Sendt: 1. oktober 2014 22:50
> > Til: Music Encoding Initiative
> > Emne: Re: [MEI-L] MEI-based catalogue of Carl Nielsen's works now
> > online
> >
> >
> > Axel,
> >
> > Very impressive. Congratulations!
> >
> > Could you provide a very brief description of your workflow for creating
> incipits? I see the image files, but was MEI involved upstream?
> >
> > Thanks, and again, great work.
> >
> > Morgan Cundiff
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Wed, 1 Oct 2014, Axel Teich Geertinger wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear list
> >>
> >> I am delighted to announce that a thematic catalogue of Carl Nielsen's
> (1865-1931) works is now available online. Except for the incipits it is
> entirely based on the MEI header, not least the FRBR module. We have used
> our MerMEId editor to create and edit it.
> >> All entries are available as XML as well. The catalogue also provides
> links to The Royal Library's scans of Nielsen's manuscripts and to all
> volumes of the recently finished complete edition of Nielsen's works (in
> PDF). A printed edition of the catalogue is scheduled for publication next
> year.
> >>
> >> We plan to expand the online catalogue - and MerMEId - further, for
> example by improving support for linked data to provide information on the
> persons mentioned.
> >>
> >> The Nielsen catalogue (CNW) is available at
> >> http://www.kb.dk/dcm/cnw.html The MerMEId project page is
> >> http://www.kb.dk/en/nb/dcm/projekter/mermeid.html
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Axel
> >>
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