[MEI-L] Conventional encoding of suggested accidentals (ficta)?

Roland, Perry (pdr4h) pdr4h at eservices.virginia.edu
Mon Jun 24 15:37:19 CEST 2013

Hi Peter,

They are indeed both nearly the same thing.  

  <accid accid="s" />

is more expressive in that it provides a more complete reason for the accidental, while 

<accid accid="s" func="edit"/>

is intentionally more compact, tying the func attribute directly to the accid element instead of requiring the additional nested markup.  This style is useful for direct translation from other encoding systems that don't have any notion of supplied vs correction vs regularization ... Unless the MEI is being transformed from another encoding scheme, the first example should be preferred.

I agree that the one sentence definition of <supplied> is somewhat misleading.  But, in section 11.4.1 "Omissions, Unclear Readings, Damage, and Supplied Readings", the MEI Guidelines provide a little more, well, guidance -- 

"Sometimes the editor provides information not present in the source material. These conjectures or emendations are marked up in MEI using the <supplied> element."

Would re-wording this sentence help clear up confusion?


Perry Roland
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Subject: Re: [MEI-L] Conventional encoding of suggested accidentals (ficta)?

Well, I am confused now …
What is the difference between
  <accid accid="s" />
<accid accid="s" func="edit"/>?

To me, both look like editorial additions?!

An additional note on the description of <supplied>. (Having tei:supplied in mind) I find the current description "… illegible for any reason" misleading as it seems there *must* have been something written. But what about editorial additions due to simple omission in the authorial score? TEI simply says: "signifies text supplied by the transcriber or editor for any reason …"[1]


[1] http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/ref-supplied.html

Am 22.06.2013 um 20:10 schrieb Raffaele Viglianti <raffaeleviglianti at gmail.com>:

> Thanks Craig, I forgot about @func="edit". It certainly avoids confusion. I also see what you mean about @place; it probably won't hurt if Micah added it to his encoding, though.
> Raffaele
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Craig Sapp <craigsapp at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Raffaele,
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Raffaele Viglianti <raffaeleviglianti at gmail.com> wrote:
> <supplied reason="ficta">
>   <accid accid="s" place="above"/>
> </supplied>
> I wouldn't mind, but crazy purists would complain that if you use this to indicate an editorial B-flat, then it is semantically incorrect since B-flat is technically not a musica ficta note.  So it is in general better to think of them as editorial accidentals used to chromatically inflect notes for performance, which usually happen to move the notes onto musica ficta pitches.
> -=+Craig

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