[MEI-L] The shortest mei document
Johannes Kepper
kepper at edirom.de
Thu Apr 16 16:55:35 CEST 2009
Raffaele, Perry,
I think that the decision of whether to use ODD or not should be well-
prepared, and perhaps we're not ready yet. Daniel and me tried to use
ODD in a TEI-independent way, and from our perspective this seemed to
be working. But RNG is no one-way street, as we could easily reuse
Perry's RNG work in ODD. Therefore it seems to be reasonable that
Perry continues with RNG. We don't loose anything by doing so, and it
seems to be more convenient to Perry.
But we should make a final (well, as final as can be) decision on this
during our first project meeting in Charlottesville. For that reason,
we should prepare ourselves. As Raffaele offered time to work on the
ODD, I think that he should find out which level of TEI-independency
is possible. At the same time, I'm very interested in how to reuse the
TEI header (or other related modules) for MEI (with local changes
only). We could then discuss these possibilities in detail and pick
the most pleasing solution. I guess we will have at least some hours
for technical issues like these in Charlottesville, although there is
no plan yet. (Perry: tonight?)
Would that be a convenient plan for everybody for the next few weeks?
Best regards,
Johannes
PS: I don't want to rule anybody, I'm just trying to put things from
private messages and discussions together. I'd be happy to see
different opinions regarding our proceedings. So please feel free to
criticize my ideas, as they – of course – might be complete rubbish…
Am 16.04.2009 um 15:57 schrieb Roland, Perry (pdr4h):
> Raffaele,
>
> I've attached a zip file containing Syd's examples and notes from a
> couple of his emails.
>
> I don't feel comfortable with ODD right now so I'll just continue on
> with plain-old Relax. But, by all means, please have a more in-
> depth look at Syd's examples and how they might apply to MEI. At
> some point, we can bring the two approaches together, I think.
>
> --
> p.
>
> __________________________
> Perry Roland
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>
> ________________________________
> From: mei-l-bounces at lists.uni-paderborn.de [mei-l-bounces at lists.uni-paderborn.de
> ] On Behalf Of Raffaele Viglianti [raffaeleviglianti at gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 5:12 AM
> To: Music Encoding Initiative
> Subject: Re: [MEI-L] The shortest mei document
>
> Hi Perry,
>
> My understanding is that an ODD is a TEI document, but allows the
> definition of modules independent from TEI. Could you share the ODD
> that Syd gave you? I would be really curious to look at it.
>
> I think that RNG is a good option if you don't feel comfortable with
> ODD, but if ODD proved to be TEI-independent (besides the formalism
> itself), then I think that would be the best way to go for clearly
> encoding documentation and definition in one place.
>
> Best,
> Raffaele
>
> 2009/4/3 Roland, Perry (pdr4h) <pdr4h at eservices.virginia.edu<mailto:pdr4h at eservices.virginia.edu
> >>
>
> Actually, since even <music> doesn't require content, the absolutely
> shortest conforming MEI document is
>
>
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
> <!-- <!DOCTYPE mei SYSTEM "../DTD/mei19-all-test.dtd"> -->
> <?oxygen RNGSchema="../RelaxSchema/mei19-all-test-annotated.rng"
> type="xml"?>
> <mei version="1.9b">
> <meihead>
> <filedesc>
> <titlestmt>
> <title>The shortest mei document</title>
> </titlestmt>
> <pubstmt/>
> </filedesc>
> </meihead>
> <music/>
> </mei>
>
>
> Thanks for the suggestion to start with a file like this for
> modularization. As you can probably tell from the fact that I
> haven't yet created a modular version of the new DTD or the RELAX
> schema, I'm still having some difficulty with this task. But I have
> been looking at ODD and just yesterday I got hold of an ODD instance
> that describes a non-TEI markup language (courtesy of Syd Baumann).
> I have to admit I haven't looked at it super closely, but it seems
> to still be TEI-dependent, however, because it appears to define
> some parts of the markup language as customizations of TEI!
>
> If this is actually the case, then I'm less inclined to go the ODD
> route than I was before. For now, I'm working on creating a modular
> and annotated RELAX schema that I think will get us to the end
> result more quickly. I'll commit a preliminary version to the
> subversion repo soon -- meaning by the end of next week (I hope).
>
> --
> perry
>
> __________________________
> Perry Roland
> Scholarly Resources
> University of Virginia Library
> Post Office Box 400155
> Charlottesville, VA 22904- 4155
> 434-982-2702 (w)
> pdr4h at virginia.edu<mailto:pdr4h at virginia.edu><mailto:pdr4h at virginia.edu
> <mailto:pdr4h at virginia.edu>>
>
> ________________________________
> From: mei-l-bounces at lists.uni-paderborn.de<mailto:mei-l-bounces at lists.uni-paderborn.de
> > [mei-l-bounces at lists.uni-paderborn.de<mailto:mei-l-bounces at lists.uni-paderborn.de
> >] On Behalf Of Raffaele Viglianti [raffaeleviglianti at gmail.com<mailto:raffaeleviglianti at gmail.com
> >]
> Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 1:42 PM
> To: Music Encoding Initiative
> Subject: [MEI-L] The shortest mei document
>
> Dear all,
>
> What do you think the shortest MEI document is? I think reflecting
> on this might be a good starting point for a modular ODDification
> (again, I got this idea from the P5 source, in particular: http://tei.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tei/trunk/P5/Source/Specs/TEI.xml?view=markup
> )
>
> I think it might be something like this (this document is on SVN
> under /branches/mei19/Documents):
>
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
> <!DOCTYPE mei SYSTEM "file:../DTD/mei19-all-test.dtd">
> <mei version="1.9b">
> <meihead>
> <filedesc>
> <titlestmt>
> <title>The shortest mei document</title>
> </titlestmt>
> <pubstmt>
> <respstmt>
> <name>RV</name>
> </respstmt>
> </pubstmt>
> </filedesc>
> </meihead>
> <music>
> <body>
> <mdiv>
> <score>
> <staff>
> <dir staff="1">tacet</dir>
> </staff>
> </score>
> </mdiv>
> </body>
> </music>
> </mei>
>
> Best,
> Raffaele
>
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