[MEI-L] Details in sources

Daniel Alles DanielAlles at stud.uni-frankfurt.de
Wed Apr 5 19:54:43 CEST 2017

Dear David,

I'll move this topic to the MEI-L because I initially wanted to ask  
the whole list for their opinions and mixed up the adresses...

Thank you for your reply, it helped me thinking about MEI once again.  
I already knew that MEI does not tell me what is musicologically  
important, that's why I wanted your opinions on how deep into detail  
an encoding should go. Now I start thinking about MEI as a tool for  
digital editions, not only as possibility of long-term archiving of  
musical data (although that seems to me one of the big advantages of  

Maybe I get some more opinions to think about.


Zitat von David Lewis <D.Lewis at gold.ac.uk>:

> Dear Daniel,
> I think the answer to the big question that you ask would be clearer  
> if you remove MEI from it.
> MEI is the medium for communicating your edition. The question, as  
> it is for a paper edition, is what you think is relevant to include.  
> As in a conventional edition, you then have to choose how to present  
> that information, which is based on an assessment of the users of  
> the edition and what their needs are. Part of that will be informed  
> by whether the user will have access to the facsimile and be able to  
> find the relevant graphic there.
> For example, if you think that putting dots around the piece number  
> is interesting for a reason, then that reason will probably inform  
> where you put it. An editor of a paper edition could choose to  
> present the numbers in the same way they appear (at which point, an  
> MEI encoder should put the number in the main body and use something  
> like @rend, I guess) or they could mention it in prose in the  
> preface, or in the notes for individual pieces. Equivalent spaces  
> for prose descriptions also exist in MEI.
> I know that's not a good answer, and I'm sure others on the list  
> have better suggestions, but I do think it's worth repeating that  
> MEI does not tell you what is musicologically interesting.
> Best,
> David
>> On 5 Apr 2017, at 10:01, Daniel Alles  
>> <DanielAlles at stud.uni-frankfurt.de> wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> the encoding of my source is progressing, but there is still much  
>> work to do. There is one big general question that always comes to  
>> my mind and that implies several more specific questions: How  
>> detailed has an encoding of the graphical information of a source  
>> to be? Or is the semantical information the main part of MEI?
>> As an example I attached pages 13v and 14r of the Altus-voice of my source:
>> - Line 6 on page 13v was extended by hand. How would I encode this?
>> - How can I encode the indentation at the beginning of each piece  
>> and its parts?
>> - The number of each piece (see p.14r) is written with two  
>> vertically centered dots - how to encode these special characters?  
>> And where would I encode them? Until now I put the number in the  
>> <meiHead>, but graphically I would have to encode it somewhere in  
>> <music>.
>> How can I decide, which graphical information is needed and which  
>> is not? If I want to encode all of it, I would need a good ruler  
>> and have to encode the shape of every note and its position on the  
>> page, as the distances between the notes do not necessarily  
>> correspond to their values. To give that information along with the  
>> MEI-file, it would be sufficient to add a facsimile... But then:  
>> What is the need of an element like <sb> for system breaks, if  
>> these breaks do not affect the music but give graphical information  
>> only? (The same for <custos>...) I think, MEI has the big advantage  
>> to be able to connect both, graphical information and semantics,  
>> but where to draw the line?
>> I think I will have to decide which way I want to go, but I would  
>> really like to hear your thoughts on that topic.
>> Best, Daniel
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