[MEI-L] history of sources / items

[Johannes Kepper]

I was hoping to get a reply from Perry, especially since I think this dates back to the days before FRBR, when there were work and source elements. expression and item just inherited their standard models with little modifications, so I'm not surprised about their behavior. 

However, I also prefer to add a history element to source and item, and moving provenance in there seems like a logical modification then. I wouldn't worry too much about backward compatibility. I think we're past the point where we'd have to make huge changes to the model, and little modifications should require only little modifications in software. Also, providing a XSLT to go back and forth between MEI2013 and MEI201x is not an issue, so that people could use whatever is most appropriate to them. This might result in putting the history somewhere nested into a notesStmt when going back to 2013, but so be it…

I remember discussions about structured vs. prose-based content models for a number of elements, among them bibl and annot. Does this relate to the initial question, and should we revise it as well?


Johannes
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Am 03.04.2014 um 02:50 schrieb Eleanor Selfridge-Field <esfield at stanford.edu>:

> "Provenance" is a standard item in catalogues of works in manuscript, but
> it has a range of meanings, all of which might comfortable fit within
> "history".  It sometimes identifies previously owners but equally often it
> refers to a physical location (city, institution, performing group et
> al.).
> 
> Eleanor
> 
> Eleanor Selfridge-Field
> Consulting Professor, Music (and, by courtesy, Symbolic Systems)
> Braun Music Center #129
> Stanford University
> Stanford, CA 94305-3076, USA
> http://www.stanford.edu/~esfield/  +1/ 650 725-9242
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Johannes Kepper
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> Subject: [MEI-L] history of sources / items
> 
> Dear list,
> 
> while discussing the upcoming Weber Werkverzeichnis (Weber's work
> catalogue) with Kristina Richts and Joachim Veit, I can't remember why we
> dropped the <history> element from sources and items? We have it on works
> and expressions, but not on these two. However, it might be interested to
> write something about the creation of a source (which is not the same as
> the provenance, which is available). Can someone please remind me of our
> argument to drop it? Otherwise, it would be a fault that we might want to
> correct.
> 
> Btw., <bibl> seems to be equally hidden (you can get it from source at
> source/physDesc/physMedium/bibl.). 
> 
> Best,
> Johannes
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