[MEI-L] Thin brackets in orchestral scores

Johannes Kepper kepper at edirom.de
Wed Dec 11 15:25:10 CET 2013


Of course you need to use a nested staffGrp to encode the fact of a subgroup – otherwise you wouldn't have the means to place a @symbol. So when you plan to encode the graphics, you need to encode the meaning in the first place…



Am 11.12.2013 um 15:20 schrieb Raffaele Viglianti <raffaeleviglianti at gmail.com>:

> I also feel a bit uneasy about this. Should we not encode what the bracket indicates (a subgroup) rather than the fact that there is a bracket of some sort?
> 
> Raf
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> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Johannes Kepper <kepper at edirom.de> wrote:
> The reason why I feel slightly uneasy with this all is that it seems that we seem to enter the land of a music typesetting program here. In my ignorance about such details, I would probably encode that as a line, and ignore the fact that it is connected on both ends. In manuscripts, there would probably be no difference between this and either brackets or lines. But maybe you're right, and we should include the additional value. @Perry, do I remember correctly that you spotted some values in MusicXML not currently supported by MEI anyway? Is this an opportunity to revise them?
> 
> jo
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> Am 11.12.2013 um 14:39 schrieb Laurent Pugin <laurent at music.mcgill.ca>:
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> > You are right, I think it is missing.
> >
> > There are actually a few of them in the examples, at least there is this one (however with no representation in the encoding)
> > http://www.music-encoding.org/sampleCollection/encodings/Berlioz_Symphony_op25.pdf
> >
> > Laurent
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> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 1:21 PM, TW <zupftom at googlemail.com> wrote:
> > Laurent's post made me wonder whether we might be missing an
> > additional value for staffGrp/@symbol for the thin bracket that is
> > used for sub-groups in orchestral scores[1].  Looking at some PDFs in
> > the sample collection I didn't see anything like that (I didn't look
> > through all of them).
> >
> > Thomas
> >
> >
> > [1] see e.g. http://notengrafik.com/pdf/examples/Tchaikovsky.pdf
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