[MEI-L] StaffGrp

[Laurent Pugin]

The examples are a great resource, and this is really a small issue! I am
fine with either way for fixing it.

Laurent


On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Roland, Perry (pdr4h) <
pdr4h at eservices.virginia.edu> wrote:

>  Hi Laurent,
>
>
>
> The outermost staffGrp functions as a kind of "root element" for the set
> of staffGrp definitions.  Only it, not the inner ones, should have the
> @symbol="line" attribute -- this controls whether the score has a line at
> the left edge of the staves or not.  The "inner" staffGrp elements then use
> @symbol to indicate how the group's staves are connected.
>
>
>
> With this in mind, *without the outer group, as in the Ahle example, no
> line should be drawn.*  There appears, ahem, to be a coding error in the
> MEI file.  :-)  It's a mistake repeated in nearly all the examples for solo
> keyboard and maybe (I have checked thoroughly) in those for solo voice and
> keyboard accompaniment.
>
>
>
> I think there's no easy way to prevent this error, since staffGrp is used
> for both the outer container and the contained groups.  A simple thing that
> might help would be to create a schematron rule that restricts
> @symbol="line" to the outer group only.  This way, if one were concerned
> about the connecting line, the only way to get it would be to properly nest
> the staffGrp elements.
>
>
>
> Does this help?
>
>
>
> --
>
> p.
>
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> *From:* mei-l [mei-l-bounces at lists.uni-paderborn.de] on behalf of Andrew
> Hankinson [andrew.hankinson at mail.mcgill.ca]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 10, 2013 8:45 AM
> *To:* Music Encoding Initiative
> *Subject:* Re: [MEI-L] StaffGrp
>
>  Hi Laurent,
>
>  If you have an inner group with @symbol=line and an outer one with
> @symbol=brace it’s pretty unambiguous. Are you thinking braceWithLine just
> to eliminate one level of hierarchy?
>
>  -Andrew
>
>   On Dec 10, 2013, at 8:25 AM, Laurent Pugin <lxpugin at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Hi,
>
>  I have question regarding the @symbol in staffGrp with the value "brace"
> (or "bracket"). Does it implies a line to be rendered as well or not?
>
>  In the examples given in the documentation, most cases with a brace
> containing all staves, there is usually one single staffGrp (with
> symbol="brace"), whereas with orchestral score, we usually have one
> staffGrp with symbol="line" and then sub staffGrps with symbol="brace".
>
>
> http://www.music-encoding.org/sampleCollection/encodings/Ahle_Jesu_meines_Herzens_Freud.pdf
>
> http://www.music-encoding.org/sampleCollection/encodings/Ahle_Jesu_meines_Herzens_Freud.xml
>
>
> http://www.music-encoding.org/sampleCollection/encodings/Hummel_Concerto_for_trumpet.pdf
>
> http://www.music-encoding.org/sampleCollection/encodings/Hummel_Concerto_for_trumpet.xml
>
>  How can we clarify this? Should we allow something like "braceWithLine"
> as possible value?
>
>  Best,
> Laurent
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