[MEI-L] Lyrics: Extender lines

[Micah Walter]

In looking at the element description for <syl>, I didn't see @extender listed as a possible attribute (it is otherwise used for <harm>). Is this also an incorrect omission?

-Micah


On 1 July 2013, at 18:59, Andrew Hankinson <andrew.hankinson at mail.mcgill.ca> wrote:

> If you create a patch for the guidelines, I'll merge it in.
> 
> -Andrew
> 
> On 2013-07-01, at 5:56 PM, Micah Walter <mwalter at haverford.edu>
> wrote:
> 
>> So I understand that an extender is not necessarily added automatically; @extender="true" is necessary for the software to add an extender for a syllable lasting more than one note. However, some software may provide extenders automatically without the @extender attribute. @con="u" is essentially for a mid-word hyphen that happens to be on the baseline.
>> 
>> Perhaps the sentence "In this case an ‘extender’ is provided" could be revised to "For such cases, the @extender attribute is provided"?
>> 
>> Thanks for the help,
>> Micah
>> 
>> 
>> On 1 July 2013, at 14:29, "Roland, Perry (pdr4h)" <pdr4h at eservices.virginia.edu> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, Micah,
>>> 
>>> Sorry about the typo.  Thanks, Andrew, for fixing it.
>>> 
>>> @con is intended to hold so-called "connectors" between syllables that consist of a *single indicator*, in this case a single "_", as in "Per_ry".  This is sometimes found as a substitute for a single hypen/dash.  The primary purpose of these connectors is to provide syllabification of the text.
>>> 
>>> @extender is for those situations where a continuous line is to be drawn, often under a melismatic passage.
>>> 
>>> @con and @extender are independent of each other.  It's not necessary to provide @con in order to get an extender.  You do have to decide, however, whether your software will expect @extender or, when it's not present, render an extender based on the presence of @con="u".
>>> 
>>> The reason for this complication is that lyrics don't always appear under notes.  In these cases @extender isn't applicable, yet syllabification may still be desirable.
>>> 
>>> Does that help?
>>> 
>>> --
>>> p.
>>> 
>>> __________________________
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>>> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 11:25 AM
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>>> Subject: [MEI-L] Lyrics: Extender lines
>>> 
>>> According to the Guidelines, @con="u" indicates that "[a]n underscore sign (indicating prologation of the syllable) is used as a connector between syllables". Later in the same section, the Guidelines state the following:
>>> 
>>> "Occasionally, a word or a final syllable needs to be extended across multiple notes. In this case an ‘extender’ is provided. An extender is a continuous line drawn at the text's baseline from the end of the syllable associated with the first note until the last note to be sung with the syllable. The" [the paragraph abruptly breaks off here]
>>> 
>>> Is there a difference between the "underscore" and the "extender"? Will the extender only be added if @con="u" has been encoded?
>>> 
>>> Here is the link to the relevant section: http://music-encoding.org/documentation/guidelines2013/lyricsDesc
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Micah Walter
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