[MEI-L] trills within beams

[Johannes Kepper]

I think the question was mostly targeting at trills that do not span over a number of notes, but instead just read a "tr" on top of a note. One could argue this to be a value for @artic or some such…

Johannes



Am 05.03.2012 um 15:16 schrieb Raffaele Viglianti:

> Hi Kristina,
> 
> I agree with Perry. I very much prefer to deal with any element that spans multiple events and measures at the bottom of the measure where they start. It avoids all sorts of overlapping hierarchies. I mainly mean <slur> and <hairpin>, but also <trill>, <tie>, <tuplet>, etc.  <beam> is perhaps my only exception to this rule.
> 
> I typically use time stamp and/or ids (in this order or preference) to anchor them to the relevant events or position in time. I believe this is really efficient, especially when you're dealing with manuscript notation and editorial intervention, as it leaves room for those elements.
> 
> Best wishes,
> Raffaele
> 
> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Roland, Perry (pdr4h) <pdr4h at eservices.virginia.edu> wrote:
> Hi, Kristina,
> 
>  
> MEI is not designed to be encoded in one pass -- some things, such as trills, pedal markings, text directives, etc., must be captured after the notes.
> 
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> It might be possible to do what you suggest in some cases but it won't work all the time because it potentially leads to overlapping hierarchies.  It also means that your proposed <trill> element would have to allow every other possible element, leading to opportunities for encoders to do unsupported things.
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> From snowy (yes, snowy!) Charlottesville,
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> From: mei-l-bounces at lists.uni-paderborn.de [mei-l-bounces at lists.uni-paderborn.de] on behalf of Kristina Richts [kristina.richts at gmx.de]
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> Subject: [MEI-L] trills within beams
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> while encoding the following passage, I just mentioned, that there seems to be no way to encode the trill right here, as I don't want to extract this information and place it at the end of the measure.
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>   <Bildschirmfoto 2012-03-05 um 08.07.00.png>
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> Why isn't it possible to provide notes within a beam with a <trill> element, as could be done with single notes, like this:
> <trill><note xml:id="m167_s1_e6_A3" pname="b" oct="5" dur="4" stem.dir="down"/></trill>?
> 
> Did I miss anything?
> 
> Best,
> Kristina
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