[mei-neumes-ig] Liquescent Signs with Two Pitches

[Jeremy Llewellyn]

Dear Tim,

I echo Elaine's thanks for your message and good wishes for 2024 which I 
heartily reciprocate.

I am not a programmer or computer expert. And I do not know how Corpus 
Monodicum currently encodes <liquescent> that goes up, and <liquescent> 
that goes down.

Perhaps other programmers have practical solutions. As a non-programmer, 
I could imagine three pieces of information for a liquescence: (1) 
liquescent (2) up OR down and (3) interval for up OR down. In the case 
you give, it would be something like <liquescentU5> or 'liquescent up 
the interval of a fifth'. The standard situation would be <liquescentU1> 
or <liquescentD1>.

If you look on Corpus Monodicum for 'Hodie cantandus est' in Aa13 you 
will see a great range of different intervals of liquescents. I do not 
know how these are currently encoded. I can see, however, that the 
editors have devoted considerable time to reproducing notational 
subtleties in this manuscript.

I am sorry not to be of more help and wish you a speedy and practical 
solution!

All best,

Jeremy





Am 15.01.2024 17:57, schrieb Elaine Stratton Hild:
> Dear Tim,
> 
> Congratulations on a beautifully formulated question! I hope you are
> able to get some correspondingly clear feedback from the group.
> 
> With all best wishes--I hope 2024 is starting well for you and yours,
> 
> Elaine
> 
> -------------------------
> 
> Von: mei-neumes-ig <mei-neumes-ig-bounces at lists.uni-paderborn.de> im
> Auftrag von Tim Eipert <tim.eipert at uni-wuerzburg.de>
> Gesendet: Freitag, 12. Januar 2024 17:18:08
> An: mei-neumes-ig at lists.uni-paderborn.de
> Betreff: [EXT] [mei-neumes-ig] Liquescent Signs with Two Pitches
> 
>  Dear all,
> 
>  I wish you a happy new year!
> 
>  I have a question regarding Liquescents:
> In the documentation, there are examples of cases that are clear to
> me:
> A single symbol, which has a visual feature pointing in a certain
> direction (ascending/anti-clockwise or descending/clockwise strokes),
> and a pitch is specified for it. In Corpus Monodicum, this is encoded
> analogously, the Neume Component contains an element <liquescent>.
> 
>  But how is it in cases like in the attached example? (First two
> symbols in modern notation, centered sign in manuscript example). Here
> the stroke of the sign is clearly pointing to a concrete pitch.
> In the edition of Corpus Monodicum, this symbol is resolved into two
> note heads, i.e., two noted pitches, one of which is marked as part of
> a liquescent (and appears as a smaller note head).
> 
> How should the encoding be approached when two pitches are to be coded
> for one symbol?
> 
>  Has anyone dealt with this case and have a suggestion for encoding?
> 
>  Many thanks and best regards,
> Tim Eipert
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Dr. Jeremy Llewellyn MA, FRSA, ARCO
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