[mei-neumes-ig] @ncsign oriscus

[Ichiro Fujinaga, Prof.]

> On Jan 22, 2018, at 9:57 AM, Roland, Perry D. (pdr4h) <pdr4h at virginia.edu> wrote:
> 
>  
> Hi Ich,
>  
> It seems I missed the email from Thomas and Elaine. What is the function of @ncsign?  Is it to give a (more-or-less standard) name to the neume component?
>  
These are for single-pitched neume or neume component and appear in print.

> Also, in the following example, it’s not a good idea to treat the initial letter and the remainder of the syllable as 2 syllables.
>  
> > (Manuale missae et officiorum ex libris solesmensibus excerptum. Romae: Typis Sancti Petri de Solesmis, > Desclée, Lefebvre & Soc., 1902, p. 32)
> >
> > <syllable>
> >  <syl n=“initial">K</syl>
> >  <syl>Y-</syl>
> >  <neume>
> >    <nc oct= "3" pname= “g” />
> >    <nc oct= "3" pname= “a” />
> >  </neume>
> >  <neume>
> >    <nc oct= "3" pname= “g" />
> >    <nc oct= "3" pname= “a” />
> >    <nc oct= "3" pname= “g” />        
> >    <nc oct= "3" pname= “g” ncsign=“oriscus” />
> >  </neume>
> > </syllable>
>  
> Two syllables assigned to the same note/neume is a signal for elision.  This isn’t that.  J  Since the inial letter is a segment of the syllable, and an initial is a special kind of segment, I’d recommend the following instead –
>  
Got it.

> <syllable xmlns="http://www.music-encoding.org/ns/mei">
>   <syl><seg type="initial">K</seg>Y</syl>
>   <neume>
>     <nc oct="3" pname="g"/>
>     <nc oct="3" pname="a"/>
>   </neume>
>   <neume>
>     <nc oct="3" pname="g"/>
>     <nc oct="3" pname="a"/>
>     <nc oct="3" pname="g"/>
>     <nc oct="3" pname="g" ncsign="oriscus"/>
>   </neume>
> </syllable>
>  
Thank you.

> Alternatively, we could add a special-purpose element, say <initial>, that can go inside <syl>.
>  
That may be good a good idea.

Ich

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> p.
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> From: mei-neumes-ig [mailto:mei-neumes-ig-bounces at lists.uni-paderborn.de] On Behalf Of Ichiro Fujinaga, Prof.
> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 3:33 PM
> To: Neumes Interest Group of the Music Encoding Initiative <mei-neumes-ig at lists.uni-paderborn.de>
> Subject: [mei-neumes-ig] @ncsign oriscus
>  
> As proposed by Thomas Weber and Elaine Stratton (in the email to this list on 2017-10-17), I added the @ncsign in the current "MEI Neumes Module Draft, Version 0.2.2”:
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iJ4S3epL0-IfOsOVm547Fg-VO_bORUbtRCW775nPQ1A
> 
> Here are some examples for oriscus. I’ll post some examples for quilisma and strophicus in separate posts.
> 
> Any feedback would be appreciated.
> 
> Ichiro
> 
> <image002.png>
> 
> <neume>
>   <nc ncsign=“oriscus”  intm=“s” s-shaped=“w” />
> </neume>
> 
> <image003.jpg>
> (Manuale missae et officiorum ex libris solesmensibus excerptum. Romae: Typis Sancti Petri de Solesmis, Desclée, Lefebvre & Soc., 1902, p. 32)
> 
> <syllable>
>   <syl n=“initial">K</syl>
>   <syl>Y-</syl>
>   <neume>
>     <nc oct= "3" pname= “g” />
>     <nc oct= "3" pname= “a” />
>   </neume>
>   <neume>
>     <nc oct= "3" pname= “g" />
>     <nc oct= "3" pname= “a” />
>     <nc oct= "3" pname= “g” />        
>     <nc oct= "3" pname= “g” ncsign=“oriscus” />
>   </neume>
> </syllable>
> 
> <image005.png>
> <neume>
>   <nc ncsign=“oriscus” intm=“n” s-shaped=“w” />
> </neume>
> 
> <image007.png>
> <neume>
>   <nc ncsign=“oriscus” intm=“n” s-shaped=“e” />
> </neume>
> 
> <image009.png>
> <neume>
>   <nc ncsign=“oriscus” intm=“n” curved=“c"/>
> </neume>
> 
> <image011.png>
> <neume>
>   <nc intm=“n” tilt=“n” />
>   <nc intm=‘su” ncsign=“oriscus” />
>   <nc intm=“u” tilt=“n” />
> </neume>
> 
> <image013.png>
> 
> 
> <neume>
>   <nc ntm=“n” tilt=“ne” />
>   <nc intm=‘su” ncsign=“oriscus” />
>     <nc intm=“u” tilt=“ne” />
> </neume>
> 
> <image015.png>
> <neume>
>  <nc ncsign=“oriscus” intm=“n” s-shaped=“s” />
> </neume>
> 
> <image017.png>
> <neume>
>   <nc ncsign=“oriscus” intm=“n” s-shaped=“n” />
> </neume>
> 
> <image019.png>
> <neume>
>   <nc ncsign=“oriscus” intm=“n” s-shaped=“e” />  
> </neume>
> 
> <image021.png>
> 
> <neume>
>  <nc ncsign=“oriscus” intm=“n” ??? />
> </neume>
> I think this is a case where we provide an image of this unusual neume.
>