From ichiro.fujinaga at mcgill.ca Sun Feb 4 18:09:29 2018 From: ichiro.fujinaga at mcgill.ca (Ichiro Fujinaga, Prof.) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2018 17:09:29 +0000 Subject: [mei-neumes-ig] @ncsign quilisma In-Reply-To: References: <8A41480A-4CDA-4865-B153-05AC38D840B7@mcgill.ca> Message-ID: <4A354B2F-3097-4A54-A66D-8FC6C4268C95@mcgill.ca> Hi Thomas, I don’t have any strong feelings about any of your suggestions. One of the main reasons for making quilisma a value for @ncsign was the mutually exclusiveness of quilisma, oriscus, and strophicus. Best, Ichiro > On Jan 30, 2018, at 5:25 AM, Thomas Weber wrote: > > Dear Ichiro, > > I find your encoding examples very useful. One thing I'd suggest is to make clear that "waves" is a more detailed description of the quilisma so that its meaning isn't weakened if encoders use it for other purposes. I can think of the following approaches: > • Use Schematron to ensure @waves is only used where there is @ncsign="quilisma" > • Rename it to @quilisma.waves (and also use Schematron to enforce @ncsign="quilisma") > • make quilisma an element: > > > > > I'd handle the @s-shaped attribute for oriscus similarly. > > The element approach is of course more radical and would replace the @ncsign approach. I think and are fundamental enough in neumatic notation that we can justify giving them their own elements, but adding elements should always be well considered. > > More in a separate post... > Thomas > > > Am 22.01.2018 um 02:46 schrieb Ichiro Fujinaga, Prof.: >> Here are some examples of the proposed encoding of @ncsign=“quilisma”. >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iJ4S3epL0-IfOsOVm547Fg-VO_bORUbtRCW775nPQ1A >> >> I’ve added an att.paleography @waves (as suggested by Thomas and Elaine). >> >> Any feedback would be appreciated. >> >> Ichiro >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> (Liber Gradualis. Solesmis; E Typographeo Sancti Petri, 1895, p. 28) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mei-neumes-ig mailing list >> >> mei-neumes-ig at lists.uni-paderborn.de >> https://lists.uni-paderborn.de/mailman/listinfo/mei-neumes-ig > > -- > > Notengrafik Berlin GmbH > HRB 15007 > > UstID: DE 289234097 > Geschäftsführer: > Thomas Weber und Werner J. Wolff > > fon: +49 30 220661685 > > Leuschnerdamm 13 > 10999 Berlin > > notengrafik.com > From thomas.weber at notengrafik.com Sun Feb 4 22:16:34 2018 From: thomas.weber at notengrafik.com (Thomas Weber) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2018 22:16:34 +0100 Subject: [mei-neumes-ig] @ncsign quilisma In-Reply-To: <4A354B2F-3097-4A54-A66D-8FC6C4268C95@mcgill.ca> References: <8A41480A-4CDA-4865-B153-05AC38D840B7@mcgill.ca> <4A354B2F-3097-4A54-A66D-8FC6C4268C95@mcgill.ca> Message-ID: <6c8e482f-ef26-08fa-7ff5-59dae1bd22cd@notengrafik.com> Am 04.02.2018 um 18:09 schrieb Ichiro Fujinaga, Prof.: > I don’t have any strong feelings about any of your suggestions. Any opinions from anybody else?  My intention was to secure any consensus we have reached and lay the cornerstones of the revised module.  Selfish context is that soon, I'll likely be confronted with updating the entire structure of some data, and it wouldn't make sense to continue using the old module while we're doing that. > One of the main reasons for making quilisma a value for @ncsign was the mutually exclusiveness of quilisma, oriscus, and strophicus. > Yes, I fully agree with that.  I hope I wasn't unclear in that regard. -- Notengrafik Berlin GmbH HRB 15007 UstID: DE 289234097 Geschäftsführer: Thomas Weber und Werner J. Wolff fon: +49 30 220661685 Leuschnerdamm 13 10999 Berlin notengrafik.com