[mei-neumes-ig] Question #2

[Jennifer Bain]

Just found this thread in my email!

At least now, Perry, you have a couple of other examples of compound neumes...

If I'm understanding correctly, it sounds like compound neumes are not necessarily a problem, which is great.

As Kate says, ultimately, we want to be able to do different kinds of searches: by contour, by neume name, and by pitch when dealing with pitched notation.

Thanks all!


Jennifer Bain, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Fountain School of Performing Arts

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From: mei-neumes-ig <mei-neumes-ig-bounces at lists.uni-paderborn.de<mailto:mei-neumes-ig-bounces at lists.uni-paderborn.de>> on behalf of Kate Helsen <katehelsen at gmail.com<mailto:katehelsen at gmail.com>>
Reply-To: Neumes Interest Group of the Music Encoding Initiative <mei-neumes-ig at lists.uni-paderborn.de<mailto:mei-neumes-ig at lists.uni-paderborn.de>>
Date: Monday, June 13, 2016 at 21:35
To: Neumes Interest Group of the Music Encoding Initiative <mei-neumes-ig at lists.uni-paderborn.de<mailto:mei-neumes-ig at lists.uni-paderborn.de>>
Subject: Re: [mei-neumes-ig] Question #2


If neumes aren't named, then one can only rely on melodic contour.  Using this approach, one could never search for either 'pes' or 'pes subipunctis', only for a particular contour (in either absolute or relative terms), in which case any set of elements representing the sought after contour should be returned, unless additional filtering is applied.  A filter could, for example, exclude "hits" that don't match the structure of a pes subipunctis; that is, a neume consisting of a two-note neume followed by two single-note neumes.

In an ideal world, we would have a way of using the neume names AND searching for particular contours, just as different search criteria. The reason is that the same melody is often rendered using different neume and neume combinations, and right now, we aren't sure why. Being able to pin-point areas where contour is the same but neume choice is different, between sources (or even within one manuscript when the melody occurs more than once) would be a very useful thing to do.


Searching for a single-pitch event in an interface designed for contour searching would be counter intuitive, wouldn't it?

There are really only three neumes that represent a single pitch: 1. punctum; 2. virga; 3. tractulus. Everything else represents at least two pitches. So searching for every single punctum in a manuscript might not be the most useful project in the world, but it is at least conceivable to me.

Cheers,
K

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