[MEI-L] Slurs/ties across repetitions and/or endings

Werner Goebl goebl at mdw.ac.at
Tue Feb 5 17:31:55 CET 2019


Hi Andrew,

thanks for your message. Sure, but then you only have one start and one 
end id, but for my example 1, I need two start ids or for example 2 two 
end ids.

To clarify my problem, please see the attached MEI file with two slur 
elements for each of the two problems (renders strangely).

Thanks,
Werner

On 05.02.19 17:16, Andrew Hankinson wrote:
> Hi Werner,
> 
> I would use the @startid and @endid attributes on the <tie> (or <slur>) elements:
> 
> <tie startid="#note-id1" endid="#note-id2" />
> 
> This would mean that you would need to assign xml:ids to the note elements:
> 
> <note xml:id="note-id1" ... />
> 
> <note xml:id="note-id2" ... />
> 
> -Andrew
> 
>> On 5 Feb 2019, at 17:10, Werner Goebl <goebl at mdw.ac.at> wrote:
>>
>> Dear list,
>>
>> How would you encode a slur or tie that spans across a repetition sign and an ending block or across two ending blocks?
>>
>> Please see attached an excerpt from Beethoven Op. 57, 2nd movement.
>>
>> 1) There is a tie in the bass (bars 1--2) across a repeat start. The same tie is drawn in bar 9  with a repetition bar line in the first ending (prima volta) that leads back to bar 2.
>>
>> You could encode the ties as note attributes with multiple tie="i" or tie="t".
>>
>> The first example in bar 1--2/9--2 would be like this:
>>
>> <measure n="1">
>> 	...
>> 	<note dur="8" oct="1" pname="g" accid.ges="f" tie="i" />
>> 	...
>> </measure>
>> <measure n="2" left="rptstart">
>> 	...
>> 	<note dur="8" oct="1" pname="g" accid.ges="f" tie="t" />
>> 	...
>> </measure>
>> ...
>> <ending n="1">
>> 	...
>> 	<measure n="9" right="rptend">
>> 		...
>> 		<note dur="8" oct="1" pname="g" accid.ges="f" tie="i" />
>> 		...	
>> 	</measure>
>> </ending>
>>
>> 2) Another version of this problem is the tie from bar 7--8 into ending 1 and into ending 2. (A second such example occurs in the 3rd staff group.)
>>
>> <measure n="7">
>> 	...
>> 	<note dur="8" oct="1" pname="a" accid.ges="f" tie="i" />
>> 	...
>> </measure>
>> <ending n="1">
>> 	<measure n="8">
>> 		...
>> 		<note dur="8" oct="1" pname="a" accid.ges="f" tie="t" />
>> 		...
>> 	</measure>
>> 	...
>> </ending>
>> <ending n="2">
>> 	<measure n="8">
>> 		...
>> 		<note dur="8" oct="1" pname="a" accid.ges="f" tie="t" />
>> 		...	
>> 	</measure>
>> 	...
>> </ending>
>>
>> In both approaches, Verovio only renders the tie in the first ending, but not in the second.
>>
>> Is there a better way to encode such overlapping slurs/ties, in a way that Verovio actually renders? Would a modified tie element help that allows for multiple endids in such cases? Or is there another correct way of encoding this?
>>
>> All the best,
>> Werner & David
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Dr. Werner Goebl
>> Associate Professor
>> Department of Music Acoustics – Wiener Klangstil
>> University of Music and Performing Arts Vienna
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>> 1030 Vienna, Austria
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University of Music and Performing Arts Vienna
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