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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Perry,<br>
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Am 25.05.2017 um 18:02 schrieb Roland, Perry D. (pdr4h):<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Mixing
primitive datatypes; that is, “true|false|2|3”, creates a
number of issues that I’d like to avoid. But there are
other options – </span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">creating,
as you suggest, two attributes each for quilisma and
orisicus: quilisima and quilisma.form and orisicus and
oriscus.form,</span></p>
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style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">promoting
@quilisma and @oriscus to element status and giving them
attributes to describe their visual qualities,</span></p>
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style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">3.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">creation
of a customization for your project that substitutes
“true|false” for “2|3” in the official schema.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"> </span></p>
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">We
explored the 2nd possibility in Tours, but I’m not convinced
that’s the best path because it creates inconsistency by
promoting some attributes of <nc> but not others.</span></div>
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I fully agree. I'd be in favor of something akin to your
"unspecified" suggestion.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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@strophicus is simple, but what should its values be?
True/false, like oriscus, etc. or something else?</span></p>
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Yes, I meant it should just work like oriscus etc.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">To
deal with pitch, we decided to add @pname and @oct on
<nc>, but I’d like to hear why you think adding
<note> inside <nc> is preferable.</span></p>
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My thought was that diastematic neumes might receive better support
from tools working with pitch sequences (e.g. for melody search or
statistics) if it had <note> just like CMN or mensural.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">I’m
confused with regard to one of your suggestions about
<accid>. You want <accid> to appear between
<neume> elements and that’s exactly where they can
currently occur, but that makes them children of
<syllable>, which you say you don’t want. Once you’ve
cleared that up, adding <accid> as a child of
<neume> isn’t a problem.</span></p>
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Maybe another case of me thinking over-complicatedly. I'd
appreciate some help with this. We probably need to find a better
solution for the pseudo key signatures we need to encode without
<accid>.<br>
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Those pseudo key signatures are not really used like modern key
signatures. For example, there can be one flat at the beginning of
some lines of a chant, but not on others. This is not related to
any changes in "tonality" or so - a line break is just made when the
line is full, not when a musically sensible section is over. Even
if pseudo key signatures are present, flats sometimes are still
written out explicitly on some, but not necessarily all pitches. I
saw an instance of what to modern eyes looks like a "cancelling" key
signature, though there is nothing to cancel.<br>
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These pseudo key signatures are not something very unique, they
occur in a number of different sources (almost half of the 35
sources from
the first volumes we prepared), but we can't be sure about their
precise meaning and scope. A modern <keySig> takes effect
until another <keySig> (or <staffDef>/<scoreDef>)
occurs. This means, it implies that the key signature is visually
repeated on every line, which is not the case for those pseudo key
signatures we're dealing with.<br>
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As we wanted to avoid <keySig> for those reasons, I though
<accid> might be a more neutral way of saying "there is a flat
in the source here, but we can't really say what the precise
scope/meaning of this is". However, that leads to the problem that
they can be confused with other <accid>s between neumes. That
idea was probably flawed.<br>
<br>
<keySig> is probably more appropriate, but we'd like to find a
way that makes clear we're basically encoding the visual domain here
and leave the logical interpretation open.<br>
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Best<br>
Thomas<br>
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