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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">XML provides 2 basic approaches to describing relationships -- order and containment. Containment is often more intuitive for part/partOf relationships and uses nested elements,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Order is expressed as a list of elements, e.g.,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <event n="1"/><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">In the case of the "pes subipunctis" these might be combined like so,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><neume> <!-- this is the pes subipunctis --><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <neume/> <!-- pes --><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <neume/> <!-- first punctum --><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <neume/> <!-- second punctum --><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">providing a 2-level structure that indicates in a fairly "natural" (or idiomatic XML) way that the pes subipunctis is "made up of" 3 ordered components. Connections (which
are non-structural) between the components can be indicated using one or more attributes. I believe this alternative is better than @connection="gapped" because it doesn't mix structural and non-structural relationships.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> mei-neumes-ig [mailto:mei-neumes-ig-bounces@lists.uni-paderborn.de]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kate Helsen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 13, 2016 10:40 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Neumes Interest Group of the Music Encoding Initiative<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [mei-neumes-ig] Question #2<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In the list you have, we specifically did not try to describe any neume which looked like it was put together of several neumes. (Imagine, for example, that you have a pes followed by two puncti, the first higher than the second. That's
called "Pes Subipunctis" and is considered one "neume", but it is made up of those two basic neumes, the second of which is repeated. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">HOWEVER: now that we have "connection" as one of the attributes of the neume, and we can used "gapped connection" as a legit kind of connection, we can describe the compound neumes, right? That was my understanding, anyway. And, going on
that, Inga and I are now adding those kind of neumes to the table. (That's why it's taking some time.) <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">K<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 6:06 AM, Ichiro Fujinaga <<a href="mailto:ich@music.mcgill.ca" target="_blank">ich@music.mcgill.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Here’s a question from Perry.<br>
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"How do so-called "compound neumes" fit into this system? It doesn't appear to me that neumes can consist of other, more basic neumes. Is that correct?’<br>
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