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<p>Karen,</p>
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<blockquote type="cite">I don’t think using the neume names is
appropriate for this repertory as the theorists didn’t use
these.</blockquote>
You're right here, I've already dispensed with them.</p>
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<blockquote type="cite">The alignment is a more complex issue.
Ideally you would probably want to number the perfections and
then you would simply tag your tenor notes as occurring within a
certain perfection.</blockquote>
I've already <i>kind of</i> solved the alignment issue by using
<section> as an alignment group. I'm against tagging in a
particular perfection as that is implying that the music proceeds
in a constant modal rhythm and has length, which may not be
exactly correct. All I'm attempting to do is to align the notes
together that occur at the same time and leave the rhythm up to a
further editor or a performer's interpretation, especially with
this two-part music which may be completely without formal rhythm.</p>
<p>However, I'm still no closer to even beginning to customise the
ODD to fit my needs, there's some sort of SVG error which I do not
understand. Either going through Roma or cloning the MEI github
and attempting to build directly gives me this error (see my
message 16th of this month) and the MEI customization page is
still broken.</p>
<p>Joshua.<br>
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<div dir="auto">Quick comment. first, I’m really glad someone is
looking at modal notation. My first instinct though would be to
not use the neumes module, as many of the things you are trying
to do may have support within the measural module - where you
have elements like ligatures, and note values like longs and
breves, though I know of course that this not mensural and
eventually would need at least its own notationtype attribute
(and module?). I don’t think using the neume names is
appropriate for this repertory as the theorists didn’t use
these. For modal notation probably the most important thing you
want to encode is how many notes within a ligature and for the
specific case of the conjunctura, that the type of ligature is a
conjunctura (possibly using the form element of conjunctura).
You’re right that properly encoding the divisio is important -
whether it truly functions as a rest, or a divisio syllabarum,
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<div dir="auto">The alignment is a more complex issue. Ideally you
would probably want to number the perfections and then you would
simply tag your tenor notes as occurring within a certain
perfection. However in the duplum the ligatures could begin in
one perfection and end in another - i.e. if in a discant section
in mode 1 you had a 3-note ligature, the notes would be long
breve long but the first long is in the first perfection and the
third is the second perfection, unless of course you had
perfection be a sub-element of ligature in the tag hierarchy. </div>
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<div dir="auto">Best</div>
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<p>Dear all,</p>
<p>Fairly new MEI user, trying to encode some 13th-century
Notre Dame notation into MEI for a class. MEI has good
support for many neumes, but I'm attempting to get them
to work in a polyphonic context, align correctly and
with good semantics. Here is a small example which I'm
attempting to encode:</p>
<p><img src="cid:part1.96DADB70.D6A2EFBA@yokermusic.scot"
alt="Small Notre Dame example."
style="width:612px;max-width:100%" class=""></p>
<p>Most of the neumes can be notated and typed with the
exception of the complex neume FGBGA which does not have
a name. This is fine as this music does not stick to the
usual neume types.<br>
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<p>My first issue arises when trying to show the first
tenor note D is aligned with the porrectus GFG. How
would I go about achieving this without using
semantically-incorrect spacers or invisible rests or
durations? What I really wish for is the possibility to
encode sections of polyphony in groups that are aligned
together, i.e. the first three neumes in the organal
voice in one group, then the porrectus in a new group
with the tenor virga.</p>
<p>The second issue is the vertical lines. They are not
barlines, nor always rests. They are divisiones with a
complex and context-sensitive function. Sometimes they
function as rests, sometimes they are alignment marks,
sometimes syllable marks.</p>
<p>The first attached file 'benedicamus-domino.mei'
encodes this example naively. Nothing is aligned and I
use <barLine> where divisiones are.</p>
<p>The second attached file 'benedicamus-domino-wish.mei'
is how I wish to encode this file, using a made-up
element <alignmentGrp> that can contain anything a
<font size="-1"><</font>section> contains. I have
also replaced the <barLine> with another made-up
element <divisio>.</p>
<p>Needless to say, I'm not concerned with the output in
verovio, as very little neumatic notation is supported
anyway, but instead encoding the alignment and elements
correctly. Is something like this possible in MEI
already or will I have to dabble in ODD? If I must, are
there any links to a good workflow and documentation for
using ODD with MEI?</p>
<p>Thanks in advance for responding to this quite complex
question,</p>
<p>Joshua Stutter.<br>
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