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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext">Hi Thomas,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<tt> pname="c" oct="4"</tt><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><tt><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">In other words, where @oct.ges reflects the octave shift?<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> mei-l [mailto:mei-l-bounces@lists.uni-paderborn.de]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Thomas Weber<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 15, 2017 6:41 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Music Encoding Initiative<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [MEI-L] sounding vs. written pitch, <octave><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Am 15.03.2017 um 02:09 schrieb Byrd, Donald A.:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre>It seems clear that addressing scordatura at a higher level than the note requires grouping notes by the string they're to be played on, something like @string="G", as well as saying -- maybe in the staffDef -- how each string transposes.<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>How about timpani parts like the ones my "Written Vs. Sounding Pitch" article discusses, including Beethoven's Third and Fourth? [...] The best way to handle this might be to somehow say in the staffDef that all B's sound as B-flats.<o:p></o:p></pre>
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I think that instead of trying to find special purpose solutions for all the different cases, it would be useful to have a general way of distinguishing<o:p></o:p></p>
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"naive" written pitch (as if one didn't know about scordatura, harmonics, ottava, horn/timpany conventions etc.)<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
logical pitch (ignoring instrument transposition)<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
sounding pitch<o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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For 1., @pname/@oct/@occid/<accid> could be used just the way the are apprently used right now. For 3., according to Perry, @pname.ges/@oct.ges/@accid.ges are the go to attributes:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Am 13.03.2017 um 21:36 schrieb Roland, Perry D. (pdr4h):<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">The actual sounding pitch of a <note> may be determined [...] at "encoding time" by storing the results of this calculation in the
note's @pname.ges, @oct.ges, and @accid.ges attributes.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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But there's nothing for 2. This means, for a Bb instrument in a passage with <tt>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt"><octave dis="8" dis.place="above"/></span></tt>, a note could be encoded like:<br>
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<tt> pname="c" oct="4" </tt><br>
<tt> pname.log="c" oct.log="5"</tt><br>
<tt> pname.ges="b" accid.ges="f" oct.ges="4"/></tt></span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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