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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Hi Anna,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">No, I think <space> is the appropriate markup in this case. It captures the fact that the 2nd staff is filled with emptiness. This is the logical approach. The <dir> is
attached to the nothingness just to give it an anchor point. If the exact placement of the <dir> is required, then its attributes should be used, e.g., @place, @ho, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">MEI allows for the capture of both logical and visual information, but the logical should usually be given precedence. i don't think "reproducing the source" means replicating
every detail. If you want an exact replica of the source, use page images and @facs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">p.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> mei-l [mailto:mei-l-bounces@lists.uni-paderborn.de]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Anna Plaksin<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 09, 2017 11:05 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Music Encoding Initiative'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [MEI-L] Place text on staves<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Hi Perry,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">according to your mail yesterday, wouldn’t <pad> here also be more appropriate, because Daniel wants to reproduce the source?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">In fact, my example displayed a similar situation. There is a visual padding and a text directive “Tacet” which intends logically time, where that particular voice remains
silent while the others are singing. The difference is, that in my example the directive is followed by notes and in Daniel’s it is vice versa.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">As it seems to me, we have to decide here whether we want to encode the visual information or the logical. But the question is: which decision fits better to the encoding
approach of “representing a source”?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Anna<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><b><span lang="DE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Von:</span></b><span lang="DE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> mei-l [<a href="mailto:mei-l-bounces@lists.uni-paderborn.de">mailto:mei-l-bounces@lists.uni-paderborn.de</a>]
<b>Im Auftrag von </b>Roland, Perry D. (pdr4h)<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 9. März 2017 16:23<br>
<b>An:</b> Music Encoding Initiative <<a href="mailto:mei-l@lists.uni-paderborn.de">mei-l@lists.uni-paderborn.de</a>><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [MEI-L] Place text on staves<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Since this is mensural notation, @tstamp won't work. Instead, use <space> as a placeholder in the 2nd staff and associate the text with the space
via @startid --<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><staff n="1"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <layer><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <!-- notes --><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </layer><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></staff><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><staff n="2"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <layer><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <space xml:id="space01"/><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <dir startid="#space01">... Tacet</dir><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""></staff><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">p.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> mei-l [<a href="mailto:mei-l-bounces@lists.uni-paderborn.de">mailto:mei-l-bounces@lists.uni-paderborn.de</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Raffaele Viglianti<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 09, 2017 9:25 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Music Encoding Initiative<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [MEI-L] Place text on staves<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Hello,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">I think <dir place="within"> is the most appropriate element given that the text gives an instruction. You can use @tstamp to position it based on time. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Raff<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 7:08 AM, Daniel Alles <<a href="mailto:DanielAlles@stud.uni-frankfurt.de" target="_blank">DanielAlles@stud.uni-frankfurt.de</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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Dear all,<br>
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in my source, there often appears the playing instruction "Tacet" written directly on a staff (see attachment). How can I reproduce that in MEI? I always try to reproduce the source as accurately as possible, but couldn't find a possibility to put this text
on the staff. Is that possible at all? <dir> seems not to work, as there are no notes in that staff.<br>
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Best, Daniel<br>
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