<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">You have quite a few self-closing note tag ( <note />), but also a </note>. (lines 66, 87, 124, etc.)<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-Andrew</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 16, 2017, at 10:10 AM, Daniel Alles <<a href="mailto:DanielAlles@stud.uni-frankfurt.de" class="">DanielAlles@stud.uni-frankfurt.de</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="font-family:Arial;font-size:14px" class=""><p class="">Hi Martha,<br class="">
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your solution sounds good and is very logically, but it seems not to work for me: I deleted @dots, added @num, @numbase and @modusminor as suggested and added <dot/> everywhere needed. Now Verovio displays the Cantus only, and just the part before the first @num-attribute (see attached PNG-file). I can't find the mistake...<br class="">
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Additionally, there seems a problem with the mensur-sign. Instead of a C with one slash (as encoded), Verovio just shows the slash. Is there something I can do about that?<br class="">
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And (last question, I hope) is there a possibility to beam semiminimae in Verovio correctly? I remember them not being displayed as a kind of beamed 8ths, but as to semiminimae (with flag) and a not good positioned beam...<br class="">
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I'll attach my corrected MEI-file again.<br class="">
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Daniel<br class="">
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Zitat von Martha Thomae <<a href="mailto:thomaemartha@gmail.com" class="">thomaemartha@gmail.com</a>>:<br class="">
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> Ups! Sorry for that last part. It is not a Verovio problem. I just realize<br class="">
> that in your <mensur> elements you have @tempus="2" (which means that a<br class="">
> breve = 2 semibreves) and @prolatio="2" (which means a semibreve = 2<br class="">
> minimas), but you haven't stablished the relationship between the longa and<br class="">
> the breve. To do this you should use @modusminor. As you want the longa = 2<br class="">
> breves, you should use @modusminor="2". If you don't specify this value,<br class="">
> Verovio will assume it is "3". That is why your longa was assumed to be<br class="">
> equal to 3 breves, you can clearly see this at the beginning of the tenor,<br class="">
> where the longa rest occupies the same space as 3 breves in the other<br class="">
> voices.<br class="">
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> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 2:37 AM, Martha Thomae <<a href="mailto:thomaemartha@gmail.com" class="">thomaemartha@gmail.com</a>><br class="">
> wrote:<br class="">
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>> Hi Daniel,<br class="">
>><br class="">
>> I took a look at your files. I think the mistake is the way that the dots<br class="">
>> are encoded. In Mensural MEI you don't use the attribute @dots. Any dot<br class="">
>> after a note is encoded as an element <dot/>. And if this dot is behaving<br class="">
>> as a "dot of addition" (which is called "dot of augmentation") you have to<br class="">
>> add two attributes: @num and @numbase. These attributes change the note's<br class="">
>> value. If the dot is a 'dot of augmentation' you should use @num="2" and<br class="">
>> @numbase="3" (this will make your note 1.5 times its original value).<br class="">
>><br class="">
>> There is an example in the Verovio file that we talked about. So for a dot<br class="">
>> of addition you must do:<br class="">
>><br class="">
>> <note pname="b" dur="semiminima" oct="4" num="2" numbase="3"/><!--<br class="">
>> augm --><dot/><br class="">
>><br class="">
>><br class="">
>> I made these changes to your file and all voices lined up except for the<br class="">
>> tenor. I realized this is because the <rest dur="longa"/> at the beginning<br class="">
>> is given a duration of 3 breves instead of 2 breves, this is not a mistake<br class="">
>> in your encoding, but in the way Verovio is interpreting that "longa" rest.<br class="">
>> I will raise an issue about it. Besides that, everything should be working<br class="">
>> fine.<br class="">
>><br class="">
>> Hope this helps,<br class="">
>><br class="">
>> Martha<br class="">
>> --<br class="">
>> Martha E. Thomae<br class="">
>> DDMAL Lab,<br class="">
>> Music Technology<br class="">
>> McGill University<br class="">
>><br class="">
>> On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 5:27 PM, Daniel Alles <<a href="mailto:DanielAlles@stud.uni" class="">DanielAlles@stud.uni</a>-<br class="">
>> <a href="http://frankfurt.de" class="">frankfurt.de</a>> wrote:<br class="">
>><br class="">
>>> Hello,<br class="">
>>><br class="">
>>> I'll attach the samples to this email. The sources can be found at<br class="">
>>> <a href="https://www.dropbox.com/sh/15v9inaose2z8e8/AACXfPru5v3H5fg2cwgNZJFKa?dl=0" target="_blank" class="">https://www.dropbox.com/sh/15v9inaose2z8e8/AACXfPru5v3H5fg2cwgNZJFKa?dl=0</a><br class="">
>>><br class="">
>>> Best regards,<br class="">
>>> Daniel<br class="">
>>><br class="">
>>><br class="">
>>> Zitat von Andrew Hankinson <<a href="mailto:andrew.hankinson@mail.mcgill.ca" class="">andrew.hankinson@mail.mcgill.ca</a>>:<br class="">
>>><br class="">
>>><br class="">
>>> > Can you send along a sample of your encoding? We can help you better<br class="">
>>> > if we can see what you did.<br class="">
>>> ><br class="">
>>> > -Andrew<br class="">
>>> ><br class="">
>>> >> On Jan 14, 2017, at 10:29 PM, Daniel Alles<br class="">
>>> >> <<a href="mailto:DanielAlles@stud.uni-frankfurt.de" class="">DanielAlles@stud.uni-frankfurt.de</a>> wrote:<br class="">
>>> >><br class="">
>>> >> Hi Martha and all the others,<br class="">
>>> >><br class="">
>>> >> thank you very much for your replies, they helped me very much in<br class="">
>>> >> understanding the encoding of MN. Especially Martha's hint to the<br class="">
>>> >> Verovio-website was very useful (although I don't understand<br class="">
>>> >> completely "coloration including augmentation/imperfectino", but<br class="">
>>> >> that's Ok for the moment). A thing that confuses me a lot is the<br class="">
>>> >> displaying of the Verovio-MEI-viewer: I have the impression, that it<br class="">
>>> >> doesn't align the corect "beats" vertically; I already recognized<br class="">
>>> >> this when rendering my attempt. Is that right? How can I fix that?<br class="">
>>> >><br class="">
>>> >> Best regard,<br class="">
>>> >> Daniel<br class="">
>>> >><br class="">
>>> >><br class="">
>>> >><br class="">
>>> >> Zitat von Martha Thomae <<a href="mailto:thomaemartha@gmail.com" class="">thomaemartha@gmail.com</a>>:<br class="">
>>> >><br class="">
>>> >>> Hi Daniel<br class="">
>>> >>><br class="">
>>> >>> Perry is right, the JRP only contains modern transcription of mensural<br class="">
>>> >>> music.<br class="">
>>> >>><br class="">
>>> >>> I am currently working with Mensural MEI files, and something I found<br class="">
>>> >>> really useful is an example of a Mensural MEI file in the Verovio<br class="">
>>> webpage<br class="">
>>> >>> at this particular address:<br class="">
>>> >>> *<a href="http://www.verovio.org/features.xhtml?id=mensural" target="_blank" class="">http://www.verovio.org/features.xhtml?id=mensural</a><br class="">
>>> >>> <<a href="http://www.verovio.org/features.xhtml?id=mensural" target="_blank" class="">http://www.verovio.org/features.xhtml?id=mensural</a>>*<br class="">
>>> >>> You can download the whole file (it is larger than the short excerpt<br class="">
>>> shown<br class="">
>>> >>> there). It includes everything one needs know, you can see how they<br class="">
>>> encoded<br class="">
>>> >>> imperfections, alterations, dots and their effect in the note<br class="">
>>> (augmentation<br class="">
>>> >>> or division), changes in mensuration, etc. It also includes<br class="">
>>> coloration, but<br class="">
>>> >>> I think there is no agreement between the Mensural MEI community in<br class="">
>>> how to<br class="">
>>> >>> encode this particular feature (although I think the way it is<br class="">
>>> encoded in<br class="">
>>> >>> this example from the Verovio webpage is really good).<br class="">
>>> >>><br class="">
>>> >>> Hope this helps,<br class="">
>>> >>><br class="">
>>> >>> Martha<br class="">
>>> >>><br class="">
>>> >>> Martha E. Thomae<br class="">
>>> >>> DDMAL Lab,<br class="">
>>> >>> Music Technology<br class="">
>>> >>> McGill University<br class="">
>>> >>><br class="">
>>> >><br class="">
>>> >><br class="">
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>> --<br class="">
>> *Martha E. Thomae*<br class="">
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> --<br class="">
> *Martha E. Thomae*<br class="">
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