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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=DE link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hi Craig,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>that explains everything to me. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Thank you very much!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Anna<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Von:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> mei-l [mailto:mei-l-bounces@lists.uni-paderborn.de] <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Craig Sapp<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 28. November 2016 17:18<br><b>An:</b> Music Encoding Initiative <mei-l@lists.uni-paderborn.de><br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [MEI-L] @wordpos of monosyllabic words<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Anna,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.5pt'>> I’m wondering about the correct @wordpos in monosyllabic words:</span><span style='font-size:9.5pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>@wordpos is only for partial words:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://music-encoding.org/documentation/3.0.0/lyricsDesc">http://music-encoding.org/documentation/3.0.0/lyricsDesc</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:#FCFCFC;vertical-align:baseline;outline:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#666666'>The attribute </span><span class=gmail-att><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#666666;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm'>wordpos</span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#666666'> is used to specify the position of the marked-up lyric syllable in a word. It allows the following values:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:#FCFCFC;vertical-align:baseline'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#666666;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm'>i </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#666666'>- Indicates that the current syllable's position is <em><span style='font-family:"inherit",serif;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm'>i</span></em>nitial; that is, at the beginning of a word;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:#FCFCFC;vertical-align:baseline'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#666666;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm'>m </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#666666'>- Indicates that the current syllable is in the <em><span style='font-family:"inherit",serif;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm'>m</span></em>iddle of a word;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:#FCFCFC;vertical-align:baseline'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#666666;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm'>t </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#666666'>- Indicates that the syllable's position is <em><span style='font-family:"inherit",serif;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm'>t</span></em>erminal; that is, at the end of a word.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:#FCFCFC;vertical-align:baseline;outline:0px'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#666666'>When a syllable is at the beginning or in the middle of a word (in which case it will have the </span><span class=gmail-att><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#666666;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm'>wordpos </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#666666'>attribute set to ‘i’ or ‘m’), it is recommended to specify the type of connector written between the current and the following syllable.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>This following paragraph is of interest:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#666666;background:#FCFCFC'>Occasionally, a word or a final syllable needs to be extended across multiple notes. In this case an ‘extender’ is provided. An extender is a continuous line drawn at the text's baseline from the end of the syllable associated with the first note until the last note to be sung with the syllable.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The guidelines to not explicitly say how a connector should be applied to a monosyllabic word, and there is no @extender for syl, but the way I do it is to give @con="u" on the @syl for the word:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:blue'><syl con="u">a</syl></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>This is also recognized by verovio, drawing the @con as an extender (rather than a connecter):<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><img border=0 width=212 height=124 style='width:2.2083in;height:1.2916in' id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image002.png@01D2499C.DE8B1B70" alt="Inline images 1"><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Related issue discussion for verovio:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://github.com/rism-ch/verovio/issues/292">https://github.com/rism-ch/verovio/issues/292</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>-=+Craig<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 28 November 2016 at 05:46, Anna Plaksin <<a href="mailto:annplaksin@gmx.net" target="_blank">annplaksin@gmx.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Dear list,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>I’m wondering about the correct @wordpos in monosyllabic words:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>In my particular case, I have monosyllabic words with a @con=”u” because it should be sung melismatic. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>But Verovio treat the connector differently depending on the word position: In the case of @wordpos=”i” and @con=”u”, Verovio draws the underscore into the next following syllable; with @wordpos=”t” and @con=”u” it draws the underscore to the next preceding note. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Is this an issue concerning Verovio or is it semantically preferable encoding it as a terminal syllable of a word?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Many thanks in advance,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Anna</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>mei-l mailing list<br><a href="mailto:mei-l@lists.uni-paderborn.de">mei-l@lists.uni-paderborn.de</a><br><a href="https://lists.uni-paderborn.de/mailman/listinfo/mei-l" target="_blank">https://lists.uni-paderborn.de/mailman/listinfo/mei-l</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>