<html dir="ltr">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=Windows-1252">
<style id="owaParaStyle">P {
MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px
}
</style>
</head>
<body style="WORD-WRAP: break-word" fPStyle="1" ocsi="0">
<div style="direction: ltr;font-family: Arial Unicode MS;color: #000000;font-size: 12pt;">
<p>Hi Laurent,</p>
<p> </p>
<p>The outermost staffGrp functions as a kind of "root element" for the set of staffGrp definitions. Only it, not the inner ones, should have the @symbol="line" attribute -- this controls whether the score has a line at the left edge of the staves or not.
The "inner" staffGrp elements then use @symbol to indicate how the group's staves are connected.
</p>
<p> </p>
<p>With this in mind, *without the outer group, as in the Ahle example, no line should be drawn.* There appears, ahem, to be a coding error in the MEI file. :-) It's a mistake repeated in nearly all the examples for solo keyboard and maybe (I have checked
thoroughly) in those for solo voice and keyboard accompaniment.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>I think there's no easy way to prevent this error, since staffGrp is used for both the outer container and the contained groups. A simple thing that might help would be to create a schematron rule that restricts @symbol="line" to the outer group only.
This way, if one were concerned about the connecting line, the only way to get it would be to properly nest the staffGrp elements.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Does this help?</p>
<p> </p>
<p>--</p>
<p>p.</p>
<div>
<div class="BodyFragment"><font size="2">
<div class="PlainText"><br>
__________________________<br>
Perry Roland<br>
Music Library</div>
<div class="PlainText">University of Virginia</div>
<div class="PlainText">P. O. Box 400175</div>
<div class="PlainText">Charlottesville, VA 22904<br>
434-982-2702 (w)<br>
pdr4h (at) virginia (dot) edu</div>
</font></div>
</div>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 16px">
<hr tabindex="-1">
<div style="DIRECTION: ltr" id="divRpF919117"><font color="#000000" size="2" face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> mei-l [mei-l-bounces@lists.uni-paderborn.de] on behalf of Andrew Hankinson [andrew.hankinson@mail.mcgill.ca]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 10, 2013 8:45 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Music Encoding Initiative<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [MEI-L] StaffGrp<br>
</font><br>
</div>
<div></div>
<div>Hi Laurent,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>If you have an inner group with @symbol=line and an outer one with @symbol=brace it’s pretty unambiguous. Are you thinking braceWithLine just to eliminate one level of hierarchy?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>-Andrew</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>On Dec 10, 2013, at 8:25 AM, Laurent Pugin <<a href="mailto:lxpugin@gmail.com" target="_blank">lxpugin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
<br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">Hi,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I have question regarding the @symbol in staffGrp with the value "brace" (or "bracket"). Does it implies a line to be rendered as well or not?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>In the examples given in the documentation, most cases with a brace containing all staves, there is usually one single staffGrp (with symbol="brace"), whereas with orchestral score, we usually have one staffGrp with symbol="line" and then sub staffGrps
with symbol="brace".</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><a href="http://www.music-encoding.org/sampleCollection/encodings/Ahle_Jesu_meines_Herzens_Freud.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.music-encoding.org/sampleCollection/encodings/Ahle_Jesu_meines_Herzens_Freud.pdf</a><br>
</div>
<div><a href="http://www.music-encoding.org/sampleCollection/encodings/Ahle_Jesu_meines_Herzens_Freud.xml" target="_blank">http://www.music-encoding.org/sampleCollection/encodings/Ahle_Jesu_meines_Herzens_Freud.xml</a><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><a href="http://www.music-encoding.org/sampleCollection/encodings/Hummel_Concerto_for_trumpet.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.music-encoding.org/sampleCollection/encodings/Hummel_Concerto_for_trumpet.pdf</a></div>
<div><a href="http://www.music-encoding.org/sampleCollection/encodings/Hummel_Concerto_for_trumpet.xml" target="_blank">http://www.music-encoding.org/sampleCollection/encodings/Hummel_Concerto_for_trumpet.xml</a></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>How can we clarify this? Should we allow something like "braceWithLine" as possible value?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Best,</div>
<div>Laurent</div>
</div>
_______________________________________________<br>
mei-l mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:mei-l@lists.uni-paderborn.de" target="_blank">mei-l@lists.uni-paderborn.de</a><br>
https://lists.uni-paderborn.de/mailman/listinfo/mei-l<br>
</blockquote>
</div>
<br>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</body>
</html>