[MEI-L] Slurs/ties across repetitions and/or endings

[Andrew Hankinson]

You could also have two ties with the same startid and a different endid. I'm not sure how Verovio would render it, but that would seem to me to be the most 'semantic' markup.

-Andrew

> On 5 Feb 2019, at 17:31, Werner Goebl <goebl at mdw.ac.at> wrote:
> 
> Hi Andrew,
> 
> thanks for your message. Sure, but then you only have one start and one end id, but for my example 1, I need two start ids or for example 2 two end ids.
> 
> To clarify my problem, please see the attached MEI file with two slur elements for each of the two problems (renders strangely).
> 
> Thanks,
> Werner
> 
> On 05.02.19 17:16, Andrew Hankinson wrote:
>> Hi Werner,
>> I would use the @startid and @endid attributes on the <tie> (or <slur>) elements:
>> <tie startid="#note-id1" endid="#note-id2" />
>> This would mean that you would need to assign xml:ids to the note elements:
>> <note xml:id="note-id1" ... />
>> <note xml:id="note-id2" ... />
>> -Andrew
>>> On 5 Feb 2019, at 17:10, Werner Goebl <goebl at mdw.ac.at> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear list,
>>> 
>>> How would you encode a slur or tie that spans across a repetition sign and an ending block or across two ending blocks?
>>> 
>>> Please see attached an excerpt from Beethoven Op. 57, 2nd movement.
>>> 
>>> 1) There is a tie in the bass (bars 1--2) across a repeat start. The same tie is drawn in bar 9  with a repetition bar line in the first ending (prima volta) that leads back to bar 2.
>>> 
>>> You could encode the ties as note attributes with multiple tie="i" or tie="t".
>>> 
>>> The first example in bar 1--2/9--2 would be like this:
>>> 
>>> <measure n="1">
>>> 	...
>>> 	<note dur="8" oct="1" pname="g" accid.ges="f" tie="i" />
>>> 	...
>>> </measure>
>>> <measure n="2" left="rptstart">
>>> 	...
>>> 	<note dur="8" oct="1" pname="g" accid.ges="f" tie="t" />
>>> 	...
>>> </measure>
>>> ...
>>> <ending n="1">
>>> 	...
>>> 	<measure n="9" right="rptend">
>>> 		...
>>> 		<note dur="8" oct="1" pname="g" accid.ges="f" tie="i" />
>>> 		...	
>>> 	</measure>
>>> </ending>
>>> 
>>> 2) Another version of this problem is the tie from bar 7--8 into ending 1 and into ending 2. (A second such example occurs in the 3rd staff group.)
>>> 
>>> <measure n="7">
>>> 	...
>>> 	<note dur="8" oct="1" pname="a" accid.ges="f" tie="i" />
>>> 	...
>>> </measure>
>>> <ending n="1">
>>> 	<measure n="8">
>>> 		...
>>> 		<note dur="8" oct="1" pname="a" accid.ges="f" tie="t" />
>>> 		...
>>> 	</measure>
>>> 	...
>>> </ending>
>>> <ending n="2">
>>> 	<measure n="8">
>>> 		...
>>> 		<note dur="8" oct="1" pname="a" accid.ges="f" tie="t" />
>>> 		...	
>>> 	</measure>
>>> 	...
>>> </ending>
>>> 
>>> In both approaches, Verovio only renders the tie in the first ending, but not in the second.
>>> 
>>> Is there a better way to encode such overlapping slurs/ties, in a way that Verovio actually renders? Would a modified tie element help that allows for multiple endids in such cases? Or is there another correct way of encoding this?
>>> 
>>> All the best,
>>> Werner & David
>>> 
>>> 
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